Who wants to Picket?

[Run Lynch Run]

I saw all the fans living in Buffalo who arent going to the game to picket outside the Skydome...

Long live RICH Stadium!!

[shaunta53]

Picket what?

[THE SLAMMER]

We want free Molsons or Labatts (16 oz)

[Marshawn-2-the-housee]

id do it. but why not just start a chant at a HOME game.

by home i mean in buffalo not toronto

[Run Lynch Run]

Picket what?

The game in Toronto....

[shaunta53]

The game in Toronto....

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?

[American Tatonkas]

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?

Im with you on this one for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xftbllfreakx]

ill picket

[LeDee]

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?

To lose a home game earlier in the season, when we might not be in a fight to clinch a playoff spot. IMO, that's profound disrespect for the season ticket holders and other fans who make it out for Dec games, and the fan base in general. Unless they know already that we won't be in plaoyff contention...actually, I hadn't considered that...that's possible...

[Clemfield2622]

so they drove to toronto to picket but dont want to drive to SUPPORT the team?

Hypocrites

edited for spelling :)

[SABILLS]

so they drove to toronto to picket but dont want to drive to SUPPORT the team?

Hippocrates

Huh...Hippocrates is the ancient Greek "father of medicine." I think you meant hypocrites.

[socfulofquarters]

I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.

[steckmeister03]

Huh...Hippocrates is the ancient Greek "father of medicine." I think you meant hypocrites.

hahahahahaha

[kcnovA23]

I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.

I lol'd... I hope that didn't go over other readers' heads.

[xftbllfreakx]

Huh...Hippocrates is the ancient Greek "father of medicine." I think you meant hypocrites.

lol thats funny howd u know that

[SiC]

I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.

R.I.P. Mitch

[SABILLS]

lol thats funny howd u know that

I like history and haven't you ever watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure? Hippo-Crates and So-Crates? LOL

[Robosack]

Guys, this is good for the franchise. Get it through your head that the games are over a long period of time, not all in the 08 season.

Either play in Toronto or let the franchise wither and die. Take your choice!

[Armest07]

Yeah i dont really want games in Toronto but it has to be done. we really dont have a choice. the entire NFL is expanding and at least we have a good fan base in Toronto. its pretty much a home game.

[BillsExpert]

Why don't they ship the 2 practice games to Toronto instead of making the season tcket holders pay for these **** games. Toronto gets a quality game, tand the ticket holders suck up the practices into their season ticket price. Thats a lot and let me RALPF.

[Run Lynch Run]

I dont have a problem with them playing in Toronto. It is the price they are gouging.

So 250+ for the game ticket, 150+ for the hotel, 30+ for parking, 100+ in beer and food...

That is one expensive "home game"...

[Run Lynch Run]

Have them play both preseason home games up there....i hate paying for those any ways...

[Warren55]

Is this truly good for the "Buffalo" Bills?

Or

Is it a way for the NFL to desensitize the situation over time and viola it's gone to a higher revenue city for the League?

Have you seen the experiment where you put a frog into a pan of cool water and turn on the stove? He is cooked before he knows it. :sinking:

[Clemfield2622]

Is this truly good for the "Buffalo" Bills?

Or

Is it a way for the NFL to desensitize the situation over time and viola it's gone to a higher revenue city for the League?

Have you seen the experiment where you put a frog into a pan of cool water and turn on the stove? He is cooked before he knows it. :sinking:

last thing i knew the BILLS asked for this. The league did not force it on them. It has been mentioned that a few years ago the Packers played some games in Milwaukee, this is all about regional expansion and stability

[nopabillsbacker]

last thing i knew the BILLS asked for this. The league did not force it on them. It has been mentioned that a few years ago the Packers played some games in Milwaukee, this is all about regional expansion and stability

we hope !! :watching:

[nomoredyess]

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?

You dont think that giving Toronto Argonauts fans first shot at tickets and then Lottery ticketing for the Bills season tickets holders isnt a sign of whats to come???!!!! Or have you not heard about that yet?

[RealityCheck]

I am a season ticket holder and I live 380 miles away on exit 18 off Rte. 87 south. Stop being sissies and drive to Toronto. People aren't picketing in the face of out sourcing jobs and importing illegal labor, but you want to picket a football game? No wonder the economy sucks in Buffalo.

[nomoredyess]

last thing i knew the BILLS asked for this. The league did not force it on them. It has been mentioned that a few years ago the Packers played some games in Milwaukee, this is all about regional expansion and stability

I will bet Packers season ticket holders had first shot at tickets, unlike Bills season ticket holders will!! In fact CFL season ticket holders will have priority at an NFL game, thats rediculous!!!

[nomoredyess]

I am a season ticket holder and I live 380 miles away on exit 18 off Rte. 87 south. Stop being sissies and drive to Toronto. People aren't picketing in the face of out sourcing jobs and importing illegal labor, but you want to picket a football game? No wonder the economy sucks in Buffalo.

Realitycheck, as a season ticket holder, you dont think you have the rights to the tickets first?

[nomoredyess]

I dont have a problem with them playing in Toronto. It is the price they are gouging.

So 250+ for the game ticket, 150+ for the hotel, 30+ for parking, 100+ in beer and food...

That is one expensive "home game"...

Thats exactly my point!!

[nopabillsbacker]

i think this is because this game is aimed at winning those fans over to the NFL... Toronto isnt a total bills market... many other nfl teams have fans there... i think this is trying to get Canadians who are football fans but not Bills fans to be Bills fans... imo

[The Loner]

I am a season ticket holder and I live 380 miles away on exit 18 off Rte. 87 south. Stop being sissies and drive to Toronto. People aren't picketing in the face of out sourcing jobs and importing illegal labor, but you want to picket a football game? No wonder the economy sucks in Buffalo.

:thumbsup:

[Run Lynch Run]

I am a season ticket holder and I live 380 miles away on exit 18 off Rte. 87 south. Stop being sissies and drive to Toronto. People aren't picketing in the face of out sourcing jobs and importing illegal labor, but you want to picket a football game? No wonder the economy sucks in Buffalo.

It is not about the drive "realitycheck". I make the drive quite often to party it up in T.O.

It is the fact that I am being price gouged by the team that I love.

The Rogers Centre, eh, has the worst turf. It sucks when the Blue Jays play there and it sucks when the argonuts play. I really hope that someone doesn't tear their knee up or gets his foot chopped up by loose tile in the shower ala Ricky Williams...

Inferior stadium!! There are better ways to regionalize the team, like start advertising...

[Cribbs20]

Guys, this is good for the franchise. Get it through your head that the games are over a long period of time, not all in the 08 season.

Either play in Toronto or let the franchise wither and die. Take your choice!

Yeah, maybe will be able to afford decent free agents and keep our own good young players for a change.

[nomoredyess]

i think this is because this game is aimed at winning those fans over to the NFL... Toronto isnt a total bills market... many other nfl teams have fans there... i think this is trying to get Canadians who are football fans but not Bills fans to be Bills fans... imo

I think its more to see if the Bills move to Toronto, if they can sell it out!!

[Run Lynch Run]

Question canadians...

Are there any larger sports stadiums in the GTA?

I know that BMO seats only 20K, are they any larger?

[OldestRookie]

I don't care if they play in Toronto. It brings in more money for the team. And more money means more talent. Maybe we will spend right up to the cap with more cash. And Toronto's a nice city. Sure, it doesn't have all the cultural things that Buffalo has to offer but it's a close second.

[Run Lynch Run]

I think its more to see if the Bills move to Toronto, if they can sell it out!!

53K is not that much to ask for a sellout at an NFL game.

[Run Lynch Run]

I don't care if they play in Toronto. It brings in more money for the team. And more money means more talent. Maybe we will spend right up to the cap with more cash. And Toronto's a nice city. Sure, it doesn't have all the cultural things that Buffalo has to offer but it's a close second.

We were right up at the salary cap this year with all the injuries and players we had to sign.....maybe if Ralph would sell the rights to the stadium, charge the Seneca's more money for their suite, make the lower bowl tickets more than the first 20 rows in the 300 section, then we can start talking....

[RealityCheck]

It is not about the drive "realitycheck". I make the drive quite often to party it up in T.O.

It is the fact that I am being price gouged by the team that I love.

The Rogers Centre, eh, has the worst turf. It sucks when the Blue Jays play there and it sucks when the argonuts play. I really hope that someone doesn't tear their knee up or gets his foot chopped up by loose tile in the shower ala Ricky Williams...

Inferior stadium!! There are better ways to regionalize the team, like start advertising...

Price gouged? My cousins are Jets season ticket holders. You don't know what price gouging is.

[Run Lynch Run]

Price gouged? My cousins are Jets season ticket holders. You don't know what price gouging is.

Yea your right, I have no idea. No clue.

Why dont you give us a lesson on it?

[The Loner]

It is the fact that I am being price gouged by the team that I love.
It all relative isn't it? ...Bills have the lowest ticket prices in the League...but then again I guess you get what you pay for.

Go to a game in Philly...then you'll know what "price" gouging really is.



..........

[go bills in md]

Ralph Wilson is taking money out of western new york. the tax payers have paid a ton for that stadium that they get very little out of. Ralph wilson fields a team that continues not to make the playoff. Doesn't he understand that hosting a playoff game would make him a ton of money? he must forget how much money he made when the bills were good a DECADE ago.If he doesn't want to be the owner of a football team in buffalo new york, he should sell it.

[Run Lynch Run]

loner,

one regular season game is more than half of the total 8 game season ticket package....

that is price gouging...

[nomoredyess]

53K is not that much to ask for a sellout at an NFL game.

Yeah so the CFL season ticket holders get all of the tickets and Bills season ticket holders get none!! How does this make sense?

[Run Lynch Run]

Ralph Wilson is taking money out of western new york. the tax payers have paid a ton for that stadium that they get very little out of. Ralph wilson fields a team that continues not to make the playoff. Doesn't he understand that hosting a playoff game would make him a ton of money? he must forget how much money he made when the bills were good a DECADE ago.If he doesn't want to be the owner of a football team in buffalo new york, he should sell it.

cheers to that...

[Run Lynch Run]

Yeah so the CFL season ticket holders get all of the tickets and Bills season ticket holders get none!! How does this make sense?

it isn't fair...thats my point. It should go to the Buffalo fans who have been there through thick and thin. Then they can have the option to either sell them or represent their team.

[nomoredyess]

it isn't fair...thats my point. It should go to the Buffalo fans who have been there through thick and thin. Then they can have the option to either sell them or represent their team.

Thats why I think this is bad for Buffalo, if they can make more money in Toronto, and they will, why would they stay in Buffalo. I truely believe this is the begining of the end. I pray I am wrong, but remember this date!!

[MarshawnLynch#23]

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?
8 games in Buffalo.......The Toronto game is a joke? geez Its just another road game so Buffalo has 7 HOME games andf 9 ROAD games now

[Run Lynch Run]

This is going to start a rift between americans and canadians. I can see it now....

Why can't their account executives start calling the 416 area code....

[The Loner]

loner,

one regular season game is more than half of the total 8 game season ticket package....

that is price gouging...

Like I said, its all relative. Would you feel better if you were paying the league average for seasons tickets?

Its only a "price gouge" because the Bills have the lowest ticket prices in the league.

There is an option. Don't buy the tickets.

[RealityCheck]

Yea your right, I have no idea. No clue.

Why dont you give us a lesson on it?

Do you really take this crap that seriously? If you don't like it don't buy it. These boards seem like an outlet for closet pillow biters and cry babies.

[The Loner]

8 games in Buffalo.......The Toronto game is a joke? geez Its just another road game so Buffalo has 7 HOME games andf 9 ROAD games now

I agree with you

I've said before, in cpuple of previous threads. Toronto is not neccesarily a Bills town. There are as many Steeler, Browns, Giants, Cowboys etc. fans in Toronto as Bills fans.

The geographic location of Toronto to Buffalo does not mean they are Bills fans.

It looks like a road game, it probably is.

[nomoredyess]

I agree with you

I've said before, in cpuple of previous threads. Toronto is not neccesarily a Bills town. There are as many Steeler, Browns, Giants, Cowboys etc. fans in Toronto as Bills fans.

The geographic location of Toronto to Buffalo does not mean they are Bills fans.

It looks like a road game, it probably is.


It doesnt look more like a testing of the market?

[nopabillsbacker]

This is going to start a rift between americans and canadians. I can see it now....

Why can't their account executives start calling the 416 area code....

what if this starts the dreaded US/Canadian war ?? North America with crumble !!!!

[Run Lynch Run]

Do you really take this crap that seriously? If you don't like it don't buy it. These boards seem like an outlet for closet pillow biters and cry babies.

That would be the easy way out. i go to 10 regular season games a year.

So yes i do take it that serious. Sorry if some Bills fans have a passion for their team.

[The Loner]

It doesnt look more like a testing of the market?

Absolutely.

But be prepared for the "market test" not to favour the Bills.

No doubt these games will sell out. The NFL, the Bills, Rogers Communication have no doubt done market research that tells them asking an average of $250 per game for 8 games is a reasonable goal.

But selling out the games doesn't, by definition, mean the games will be sold out to Bills fans.

To me the Bills have the distinct possibility of playing 7 home games and 9 away game for the next 5 years.

[Run Lynch Run]

I have a huge problem with the Bills going to a LARGER city and playing in a much SMALLER stadium...

[SUlax89]

Those of you that say your gonna picket should get yours heads out or your a$$. If it means keeping the Bills in Buffalo for the long run then playing one game a year in Toronto is not all that bad. You people are selfish and are not thinking of all the other fans out there that desperately want to see the Buffalo Bills remain where they belong. How come you dont picket because our training camp is in Rochester? Its really not that big of a deal and the game will probably get either a Monday or Sunday night timeslot.

[Run Lynch Run]

Those of you that say your gonna picket should get yours heads out or your a$$. If it means keeping the Bills in Buffalo for the long run then playing one game a year in Toronto is not all that bad. You people are selfish and are not thinking of all the other fans out there that desperately want to see the Buffalo Bills remain where they belong. How come you dont picket because our training camp is in Rochester? Its really not that big of a deal and the game will probably get either a Monday or Sunday night timeslot.

It is a huge deal. Think about the money for parking, the tax money, beer sales, vendors, college programs who run the beer stands to help fundraise.....

Also, the tickets are being offered to Bills fans THIRD. After the Argos and Cats fans. That's a slap in the face for a supposed "home game." I wouldn't have a problem with it if the Buffalo faithful were given a fair shot...like we all have given them since 1999....

[homeslice5484]

hope its a late season game when its freezing that toronto gets the game in the dome! We better have a primetime game at home this year too! Our primetime game on MNF was a blast and im sure they thought so too! Long live the Ralph! No place like home!

Not really concerned about losing a game as long as our other games at home are good opponents, good games, and if toronto is a prime time, we better have a primetime at home too!

[nomoredyess]

hope its a late season game when its freezing that toronto gets the game in the dome! We better have a primetime game at home this year too! Our primetime game on MNF was a blast and im sure they thought so too! Long live the Ralph! No place like home!

Not really concerned about losing a game as long as our other games at home are good opponents, good games, and if toronto is a prime time, we better have a primetime at home too!

They already said on PTI, the Toronto game will be MNF no doubts, Tony Kornheiser said he is already petitioning the producers to make it early in the season, before it gets too cold up there.

The only way Buffalo will have a primetime game is SNF because they can be flexed into it. That requires winning though. Ralph, take note: Keep season ticket holders happy, put a winning team on the field and get us a primetime game at the Ralph, and this may not be as bad!

[nomoredyess]

Absolutely.

But be prepared for the "market test" not to favour the Bills.

No doubt these games will sell out. The NFL, the Bills, Rogers Communication have no doubt done market research that tells them asking an average of $250 per game for 8 games is a reasonable goal.

But selling out the games doesn't, by definition, mean the games will be sold out to Bills fans.

To me the Bills have the distinct possibility of playing 7 home games and 9 away game for the next 5 years.

I hope the market crumbles, maybe the stadium too, as long as no one else is there! If it sells out, I dont think it matters how many Bills fans there are, money is money.

[xboomer]

Why don't they ship the 2 practice games to Toronto instead of making the season tcket holders pay for these **** games. Toronto gets a quality game, tand the ticket holders suck up the practices into their season ticket price. Thats a lot and let me RALPF.
You won't have to pay for the Toronto game. You'll only get 7 tickets when you buy season tickets this year.

[luvin123]

Why don't they ship the 2 practice games to Toronto instead of making the season tcket holders pay for these **** games. Toronto gets a quality game, tand the ticket holders suck up the practices into their season ticket price. Thats a lot and let me RALPF.

The Bills/RWilson did this deal so we don't go down in financial flames.

We give them five games (2 pre-season) over 3 years , we get $. $ that we cannot generate regrdless if we pack the place. WE R A SMALL MARKET TEAM. I say that with gusto simply because I feel some people think all the teams just have the same market as the others. Why do you think the Bengals didn't like the CBA either?

Look this is just a marketing move, bring money to our franchise and we could havea better chance to compete (much less stay as a profitable ENTERTAINMENT organization.


[FYI If I miss-spelled something IDGAF, cool?]

-:sherlock:

There will NEVER be 'The Toronto Bills', there is a difference between the dream that existed here in Buff, and some excited Canadian players hoping to see a real football game.

Stay positive people! We are the difference maker.
:thumbsup:

[luvin123]

Realitycheck, as a season ticket holder, you dont think you have the rights to the tickets first?

I agree with reality check, season ticket holders did have 'first-com-first-serve'. Season ticket holders are spending less this season then last and now are beginning to bring in revenue to continue the BUFFALO Bills. This isn't a move (directed at conspiracy believers) to Toronto,it is a move to keep our heads above water and then some. The Bills are OUR team, sitting right in Buffalo.Worst case scenario: Galasano (sp?) would buy the team to keep it there ........ But there aren't moving, just trying to compete with the big money teams.

That's my 2 cents ... enjoy.

:burp:

[JNo727]

To lose a home game earlier in the season, when we might not be in a fight to clinch a playoff spot. IMO, that's profound disrespect for the season ticket holders and other fans who make it out for Dec games, and the fan base in general. Unless they know already that we won't be in plaoyff contention...actually, I hadn't considered that...that's possible...

Speak for yourself. A december game in san fransisco might be enjoyable, but when september and october are the only nice weather games, im not giving those up. If they have to take one, a december game is the best they could have taken.

[geargo]

Question canadians...

Are there any larger sports stadiums in the GTA?

I know that BMO seats only 20K, are they any larger?

Skydome or the rogers centre is the biggest in Ontario at 54000
Hamiton is 29000 and Ottawa is 31000 the biggest stadium in Canada is Edmonton at 60,000

[geargo]

Yeah so the CFL season ticket holders get all of the tickets and Bills season ticket holders get none!! How does this make sense?

Actually from what i have heard there has not been to many takes on Argos season ticket holders who bought the Bills package. And the Argos have been getting some flack for promoting the tickets on their website..

[JNo727]

I read an article today that the Argos had 14k more season tickets this season thanks to the Bills and they are extremely disappointed at the low number. Maybe those who wanted first dibs at bills in toronto tickets bought season tickets for the bills instead? Maybe thats why we might set a season ticket record this year. Who knows.

[CUHATIN23]

Id picket for the Bills to stay in Buffalo!

[bbison]

I will bet Packers season ticket holders had first shot at tickets, unlike Bills season ticket holders will!! In fact CFL season ticket holders will have priority at an NFL game, thats rediculous!!!

Actually, the Packers have had two separate season ticket bases for many years. When they renovated/expanded Lambeau and stopped playing games in Milwaukee, they offered their Milwaukee STH the option of a three-game season ticket package in Green Bay. Almost all of them took the Pack up on this, and to this day they have a Green (original GB) and Gold (former Milwaukee) season ticket bases. Many had both packages already anyway.

Lots of grumbling this year--the Gold folks get one preseason game and the 2nd/5th regular season home games. This year games 2 and 5 are Dallas and Chicago--the biggest game of the season and the biggest rival.

I saw the prices on the Skydome website--you folks must be pretty po'd

[MulderS]

I read an article today that the Argos had 14k more season tickets this season thanks to the Bills and they are extremely disappointed at the low number. Maybe those who wanted first dibs at bills in toronto tickets bought season tickets for the bills instead? Maybe thats why we might set a season ticket record this year. Who knows.

Funny, I read an article that said the Argos have 14K season ticket holders this year, up 5% from last year. And that they where happy with that solid of a number.


http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/429196


They also stated that the number of people interested in bills tickets were - "in the minority."

[geargo]

I read an article today that the Argos had 14k more season tickets this season thanks to the Bills and they are extremely disappointed at the low number. Maybe those who wanted first dibs at bills in toronto tickets bought season tickets for the bills instead? Maybe thats why we might set a season ticket record this year. Who knows.

Actually they had disapointing ticket sales for bills tickets from the Argos season ticket holders

[Jamieryan]

I saw all the fans living in Buffalo who arent going to the game to picket outside the Skydome...

Long live RICH Stadium!!

Brilliant move....pickett a move thats being done to help the franchise. Do the rest of Buffalo fans a favor.....root for NE.


The team needs the income from these games....without it there wont be a future in Buffalo. Support it or plan for the worst....

[JNo727]

Funny, I read an article that said the Argos have 14K season ticket holders this year, up 5% from last year. And that they where happy with that solid of a number.


http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/429196


They also stated that the number of people interested in bills tickets were - "in the minority."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/Toronto/2008/05/23/5649471-sun.html


^ This article says while the 14k is solid, it wasn't the expected spike they were hoping for.

[rsf]

Actually they had disapointing ticket sales for bills tickets from the Argos season ticket holders


really,

must have been out of their price range

I would think most of the corporate Argos ticket holders took advantage of it.

Also, the tickets are being offered to Bills fans THIRD. After the Argos and Cats fans. That's a slap in the face for a supposed "home game." I wouldn't have a problem with it if the Buffalo faithful were given a fair shot...like we all have given them since 1999....

I thought the Tiger Cats backed out of the deal. The way I understood it, the priority went like this:

- Rogers and Maple Leafs Sports corporate customers (notice that no tickets were available between the 20's at field level and the 200 club level)

- Argos ticket holders

- Bills tickets holders

- general public lottery winners

-------------------------------------------

I think this will increase the fan base in the GTA for the Bills. Especially with kids .. who eventually will be old enough to make the trip to the Ralph. Growing up in the GTA I would guess more than 1/2 my friends were Bills fans, simply because that was only team within a reasonable drive. I know I became a Bills fan in my early teens because of this reason. As soon as I was old enough to go to my first game I was hooked.

[JNo727]

Nice! I have also noticed a changing of the guard at bills games. I remember back when i was young, my dad used to take me to games and it was mostly 35+ crowd in the stands with their young kids. Now, the generation that grew up idolizing jim kelly and bruce smith are old enough to buy tickets and go to the games. You are seeing more 20-25 year olds in the stands than ever before.

[rsf]

You are seeing more 20-25 year olds in the stands than ever before.


I would completely agree with that statement.

It really has turned into a hip social event for young people, in my opinon. I think the reasonably priced tickets are an important reason for that.

Toronto will be much more of a corporate scene. But that is the target market.

[osucollegebuckeye]

This is why I'm not a union member.

[ArgoFan1]

As I predicted all along... very few Argo season ticket holders bought Bills tickets. Not one that I know. I am a season ticket holder too. I still predict the games will not sell out. This will be a big financial bust and Ted Rogers will be giving tickets away just to fill the place up for show. They did that the last time Bills played there... and they still drew flies. As for kids having a chance to become Bills fans here, fat chance at those prices. Those in attendance will be corporate types, there to be seen and to entertain clients. Not real fans. This is Canada. There are not millions of sports fans here. Why do you think our stadiums are so much smaller? and we still don't fill them? Argos sold only 14,000 season tickets, as mentioned before and had virtually no spike in sales due to the Bills option. The Argos usually draw over 30,000 for a game, which means that it is mostly a walk up crowd. Some games reach 40,000 lately. It's been improving a lot the last 4 years with the new owners. I feel bad for you fans in Buffalo who have a rich tradition that is being ripped away from you to be placed up here, even if for jst a few games. I also predict the majority of people at the games here will be Americans.

[rsf]

I still predict the games will not sell out. This will be a big financial bust and Ted Rogers will be giving tickets away just to fill the place up for show.

Hilarious!!!!

Its near sold out already, 5 YEARS IN ADVANCE!

and they have not even gone on sale to the public yet

[ArgoFan1]

Hilarious??? Yes you are. How can you even think they are selling out. They haven't sold many to Argo season ticket holders and they haven't gone on sale to the public yet. You are just dreaming. No numbers of any kind have been released except for that waiting list which means absolutely ZERO !!! You are basing your opinion on a useless list. That is what's hilarious.

[E Team]

As I predicted all along... very few Argo season ticket holders bought Bills tickets. Not one that I know. I am a season ticket holder too. I still predict the games will not sell out. This will be a big financial bust and Ted Rogers will be giving tickets away just to fill the place up for show. They did that the last time Bills played there... and they still drew flies. As for kids having a chance to become Bills fans here, fat chance at those prices. Those in attendance will be corporate types, there to be seen and to entertain clients. Not real fans. This is Canada. There are not millions of sports fans here. Why do you think our stadiums are so much smaller? and we still don't fill them? Argos sold only 14,000 season tickets, as mentioned before and had virtually no spike in sales due to the Bills option. The Argos usually draw over 30,000 for a game, which means that it is mostly a walk up crowd. Some games reach 40,000 lately. It's been improving a lot the last 4 years with the new owners. I feel bad for you fans in Buffalo who have a rich tradition that is being ripped away from you to be placed up here, even if for jst a few games. I also predict the majority of people at the games here will be Americans.

Just put down the crackpipe. You will feel better.

[slodrive]

Yeah i dont really want games in Toronto but it has to be done. we really dont have a choice. the entire NFL is expanding and at least we have a good fan base in Toronto. its pretty much a home game.

Remind me again how Green Bay makes a go of it?

A league with the revenue sharing set up and the continuous stream of absurd amounts of profit, I think you guys are being hoodwinked here. Ultra greedy people are stringing the fans of Buffalo along to squeeze a few more dimes out of them.

If this was a losing venture that needed to be propped up (like we have every few years in the CFL), then fine. But I gotta think there's someone in the NFL admin or the Bills ownership/ governors that sees more than just the dollar signs here...it's not like people aren't getting disgustingly wealthy here.

[slodrive]

Hilarious!!!!

Its near sold out already, 5 YEARS IN ADVANCE!

and they have not even gone on sale to the public yet


These sales are being racked up by corporations and ticket brokers. Don't kid yourself...the tickets will eventually have to be sold or given to an end user. Personally, I think these games will sellout...but the show of support so far is really just that..."show".

[TorontoHusker]

I've got my two tickets for all 8 games and I can't wait! I know a lot of people I work with are jealous their names weren't selected from the lottery. A guy at work has already offered me a lot of money for the two tickets I've got for any games I can't make it to.

I'm looking forward to August, and it's just a pre-season game....

[JNo727]

I've got my two tickets for all 8 games and I can't wait! I know a lot of people I work with are jealous their names weren't selected from the lottery. A guy at work has already offered me a lot of money for the two tickets I've got for any games I can't make it to.

I'm looking forward to August, and it's just a pre-season game....

That's so cool. I wasn't picked either. If I had, i wouldn't have gone just because of the distance, not because of the price. 3.5 hours in the winter becomes 5-6 hours each way.

[geargo]

I've got my two tickets for all 8 games and I can't wait! I know a lot of people I work with are jealous their names weren't selected from the lottery. A guy at work has already offered me a lot of money for the two tickets I've got for any games I can't make it to.

I'm looking forward to August, and it's just a pre-season game....

Preseason game=Snore time

[JNo727]

I enjoy one preseason game. Two is too many.

[Doctor517]

:thumbsup:

What about the people who work at the stadium. That's 2 less paychecks they recieve. DUMB A S S:tantrum:

[geargo]

I enjoy one preseason game. Two is too many.

Think they will ever change the format? CFL used to be the same way. Then they change to 18 regular season games and 2 pre season games. Seems to work out better in the long run.

[mhurricane1]

We want free Molsons or Labatts (16 oz)

I would be down with that 100%.....

[JimHD]

Hilarious??? Yes you are. How can you even think they are selling out. They haven't sold many to Argo season ticket holders and they haven't gone on sale to the public yet. You are just dreaming. No numbers of any kind have been released except for that waiting list which means absolutely ZERO !!! You are basing your opinion on a useless list. That is what's hilarious.

You seem angry about the Bills coming North and I don't blame you, but new ventures take time to become profitable and ole Mr Rogers probably didn't get where he is today by being inept. For the Bills end of it, this is a deal that will produce the big city corporate skybox money and help us compete with the have's instead of the have-nots. I read somewhere(Buffalo News) that this deal equates with Jerry Jones's skybox revenue in Dallas which he receives before the season even starts. If not for this, 99% of Bills fans probably wish that there wasn't a Toronto intiative. I commend Mr Wilson and his staff for thinking out of the box and keeping the Bills in the game.

[ArgoFan1]

I'm not angry about the Bills playing here. They've played here before. Twice in the 90's. I am just upset that they would steal football away from such loyal fans in Buffalo. I know I would be upset if the Argos were to play one of their games somewhere else. I'm not worried about any effects of this on the Argos. I still predict they won't sell out. You'll see a few weeks before the first real game, ads for single game tickets. That will tell you that no one was buying the package deal. What kind of sports franchise anywhere makes people buy season tickets only?? which is what their demands amount to.

[Doctor517]

Stand Up and Shout

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Time for Bills Fans to Shout. We need to promote the largest protest the NFL has ever seen. Blah,Blah,Blah, We know nothing can be done about the Toronto games right now and a lot of you weak fans think it is a good thing and don't care about losing a home game. But for the true Fans this is still a bunch of Crap. Since the NFL is so Image conscious, lets give them something to worry about. For the season opener we need to stage the largest protest we can to bring national attention about our situation here.We need to let the rest of the country and league (including the fans around the league) about our Toronto problem and about the team moving situation. Not everyone knows about the NFL 's regionalization policy and that they want this league wide. This will let fans around the country know what is going on and that this can and will happen to their team and that something must be done. Any sizable protest will attract major media attention. Especially opening weekend. It would definitely draw the attention of all the networks. Some of you will think this is lame or not worthy,but it will get the attetion of the NFL and commissioner Goodell which all we need to do. This should get Goodell and Ralph to come out in public and address this situation about moving the Bills and hopefully get a public commitment on keeping the Bills in Buffalo.
SEASON TICKET HOLDERS, TRUE FANS,AND BUFFALO DESERVE BETTER
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[TTboy]

Preseason game=Snore time
maybe in your little world.....but pre seson to me is gettin to see the young bucks ive watched in college strut their stuff trying to make the team........if u think thats boring stick to hockey......

[TTboy]

maybe in your little world.....but pre seson to me is gettin to see the young bucks ive watched in college strut their stuff trying to make the team........if u think thats boring stick to hockey......
season*..my bad

[Big B]

maybe in your little world.....but pre seson to me is gettin to see the young bucks ive watched in college strut their stuff trying to make the team........if u think thats boring stick to hockey......
Its boring compared to a regular season game is what he probly meant.

[osucollegebuckeye]

maybe in your little world.....but pre seson to me is gettin to see the young bucks ive watched in college strut their stuff trying to make the team........if u think thats boring stick to hockey......

I like seeing all new draft picks from all the teams. But my favorite part of preseason is..................no fair catches!!!! LOL I LOVE THAT!!!! Some guys just take brutal hits when they should throw up the fair catch sign but they want to show the coaches their returning skills!!!

[osucollegebuckeye]

Hilarious??? Yes you are. How can you even think they are selling out. They haven't sold many to Argo season ticket holders and they haven't gone on sale to the public yet. You are just dreaming. No numbers of any kind have been released except for that waiting list which means absolutely ZERO !!! You are basing your opinion on a useless list. That is what's hilarious.

Why don't you go pimp out the 8 team league a.k.a The CFL somewhere else. I'm sorry your league sucks and finally canadiens will have the oppurtunity to see football w/ speed.

[Doctor517]

1 game a year in Toronto vs no games in buffalo at all....

What one do you want?

I want NO GAMES in Toronto. They can come here. ALL HOME GAMES should be played at THE RALPH!!!!!!!!! NO WHERE ELSE!!!!!!!!

BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fuelfire:

[E Team]

I want NO GAMES in Toronto. They can come here. ALL HOME GAMES should be played at THE RALPH!!!!!!!!! NO WHERE ELSE!!!!!!!!

BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fuelfire:

Guess what. Not all home games are played at the Ralph. As Jagger/Richards say "You don't always get what you want". Now go to the corner for a time out.

[osucollegebuckeye]

NFL > CFL :firstplace: