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JNo727
01-31-2008, 11:18 PM
Obviously this is a little premature, but i'll bet you the house if the bills ever move to toronto, the canadians will give them the worst name imaginable.


The cranes? The geese? The Pandas or the Starlings? Could you really root for a wussie nickname named after some part of the canadian heritage and culture we don't understand and just looks gay to the rest of the world?


Here's your chance to have a little fun with the toronto announcement..



Post your logos here too if you make them.... Does clipart have a picture of a quail?

nopabillsbacker
01-31-2008, 11:21 PM
No This Is Not A Fun Chance It Is Blasphemy... I Dont Care What They Are Called If They Ever Move ... I Will Drink And Cry Myself To Death... Or Near It Atleast...

nopabillsbacker
01-31-2008, 11:22 PM
why did it do that too my post ?

Big B
01-31-2008, 11:22 PM
"Touchdown Toronto Sharp-Tailed Grouses!!!!!! Grouses win, Grouses win!!!!!!!!!!"





Here is our normal logo "Charging Grouse"

http://www.royalalbertamuseum.ca/natural/birds/_images/stgrouse.jpg

And the alternate/throwback, "Standing Grouse"
http://www.lauraerickson.com/bird/Places/NorthDakota/Oct2007/DSC01177-400.jpg Get rid of the background and theres our logo. See this Canada thing isnt too bad! That is one tough looking Grouse!!

Willy B Traded
01-31-2008, 11:23 PM
i can think of a few names. i can't post them because i would violate the TOS.

marshawn2th3house
01-31-2008, 11:24 PM
oh god why are we even thinking about this? lets enjoy the team NOW

Canadian_Bills_Fan
01-31-2008, 11:26 PM
Ya, team names from Canadian heritage aren't nearly as tough as such gems as "The Texans" real original, "The Dolphins", terrifying, or my favourite, "The Browns" again, the creativity is incredible.

fonz92004
01-31-2008, 11:28 PM
obviously it would be:

The Toronto Beavers

JNo727
01-31-2008, 11:29 PM
Ya, team names from Canadian heritage aren't nearly as tough as such gems as "The Texans" real original, "The Dolphins", terrifying, or my favourite, "The Browns" again, the creativity is incredible.

Well i'd pick a texan over a canadiAN, I'd wipe my brown on a maple leaf, and oh by the way, what the F&*C is an argo? an alohuette? an Expo? Do you just make up names for your teams?


Or what about some wimpy bird? very tough there. If i was in the woods i'd be terrified of a blue jay dive bombing me to death.

2buff4u
01-31-2008, 11:30 PM
obviously it would be:

The Toronto Beavers

Maybe if Larry Flynt owned the team......

billsfan416
01-31-2008, 11:31 PM
toronto argobillcatz

3 minute warning
01-31-2008, 11:34 PM
Hey - don't bash Canadian team names, particularly the football ones. Where else do you find names (all of which have over 100 years of tradition) such as the Stampeders, Eskimos, Roughriders, Blue Bombers, Argonauts (as in Jason and the Argonauts), Tiger-Cats, and Alouettes (which I believe is french for lark). Those are cool names. The Cdn hockey names blow though.

Canadian_Bills_Fan
01-31-2008, 11:34 PM
Well i'd pick a texan over a canadiAN, I'd wipe my brown on a maple leaf, and oh by the way, what the F&*C is an argo? an alohuette? an Expo? Do you just make up names for your teams?


Or what about some wimpy bird? very tough there. If i was in the woods i'd be terrified of a blue jay dive bombing me to death.

Blue Jays? hello, Cardinals? And an argonaut is a sea warrior from greek mythology, the Expos were named after the 1967 Montreal Expo and an alhouette is french word for lark, not the best name i know, but still that's what it is.

akcash
01-31-2008, 11:35 PM
Toronto Juggernauts or Toronto "Mansters" (half man half monster) if it was up to anthony hargrove

Talleyyoo
01-31-2008, 11:36 PM
Toronto A's get it ...................hehe

JNo727
01-31-2008, 11:36 PM
Blue Jays? hello, Cardinals? And an argonaut is a sea warrior from greek mythology, the Expos were named after the 1967 Montreal Expo and an alhouette is french word for lark, not the best name i know, but still that's what it is.

So since you'll be playing in an american league, i'll assume they'll be the toronto larks?

TylerSilverhammer
01-31-2008, 11:38 PM
Call me an optimist, but by the time the Bills move to Toronto, Canada will be overrun with Latinos, so the team will probably be called the Toronto Chinchillas.

androk
01-31-2008, 11:38 PM
I thought the Allouhette was in reference to the people who first settled Montreal...at least I think I read that in Marv's book.

My friends on my other message board I post at have a creative name, though I don't encourage them....the Toronto Taints

billsfan416
01-31-2008, 11:40 PM
yea the cfl names are pretty sweet and original but i like the poster that was like wth do u just make up random names! ahahah

Drummerboy2064
01-31-2008, 11:49 PM
The Toronto Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!!!!! (with beer... cuz all canadians are always drinking beer)

http://www.paulthology.com/blog/img/TTapLogo2007_284.JPG

Coach'sUncle'sSon
01-31-2008, 11:54 PM
Hey - don't bash Canadian team names, particularly the football ones. Where else do you find names (all of which have over 100 years of tradition) such as the Stampeders, Eskimos, Roughriders, Blue Bombers, Argonauts (as in Jason and the Argonauts), Tiger-Cats, and Alouettes (which I believe is french for lark). Those are cool names. The Cdn hockey names blow though.

RoughRiders... they named a team after some rubbers?

2buff4u
01-31-2008, 11:54 PM
theToronto Trash

3 minute warning
01-31-2008, 11:57 PM
RoughRiders... they named a team after some rubbers?


Possibly, if there was a brand of rubbers sold in the early 1900's called Roughriders...:thumbsup:

Actually, I think they took their name from a band of soldiers lead by Teddy Roosevelt, but I'm not sure. Any US historians out there?

billsfan416
01-31-2008, 11:58 PM
hahaha at the 2nd and 3rd last posts...funny stuff tonight for a change

BronxBomber21
02-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Hey - don't bash Canadian team names, particularly the football ones. Where else do you find names (all of which have over 100 years of tradition) such as the Stampeders, Eskimos, Roughriders, Blue Bombers, Argonauts (as in Jason and the Argonauts), Tiger-Cats, and Alouettes (which I believe is french for lark). Those are cool names. The Cdn hockey names blow though.
The Canadian Blue Bombers sounds pretty cool..lol

BronxBomber21
02-01-2008, 12:07 AM
Does this mean we can get NEW JERSEYS!! lol jk.

GOBILLSGO15
02-01-2008, 12:17 AM
Ya, team names from Canadian heritage aren't nearly as tough as such gems as "The Texans" real original, "The Dolphins", terrifying, or my favourite, "The Browns" again, the creativity is incredible.

hahaha thats awesome.. the cardinals are real terrifying too

bumbles247
02-01-2008, 12:17 AM
They'll be called the "Toronto Make Believes" - Just like the hockey team.

TheKid7
02-01-2008, 12:22 AM
I could never cheer if Buffalo goes to canada. I would never cheer for a team with as much passion as I do for the Buffalo Bills. Its heartbreaking just thing about it.

GOBILLSGO15
02-01-2008, 12:25 AM
Well i'd pick a texan over a canadiAN, I'd wipe my brown on a maple leaf, and oh by the way, what the F&*C is an argo? an alohuette? an Expo? Do you just make up names for your teams?


Or what about some wimpy bird? very tough there. If i was in the woods i'd be terrified of a blue jay dive bombing me to death.

Thats classy there..looks real good man... go ahead and make fun of canada.. but the bottom line is without canada this team might not even be in buffalo in a few years considering thats where they need to go to sell out and make money. Question for you.. have you ever even been to a bills game?

flyricky
02-01-2008, 01:03 AM
Well i'd pick a texan over a canadiAN, I'd wipe my brown on a maple leaf, and oh by the way, what the F&*C is an argo? an alohuette? an Expo? Do you just make up names for your teams?


Or what about some wimpy bird? very tough there. If i was in the woods i'd be terrified of a blue jay dive bombing me to death.

You should read a book so you may find the answers to your questions. That or learn French. You are an imbecile and make yourself look like an idiot.

Drummerboy2064
02-01-2008, 01:05 AM
Thats classy there..looks real good man... go ahead and make fun of canada.. but the bottom line is without canada this team might not even be in buffalo in a few years considering thats where they need to go to sell out and make money. Question for you.. have you ever even been to a bills game?

haha i cant wait till he responds to that.

Drummerboy2064
02-01-2008, 01:08 AM
You should read a book so you may find the answers to your questions. That or learn French. You are an imbecile and make yourself look like an idiot.

ya and u look so smart telling someone to read a book as a response to something. especially with the "old lecture" emoticon above ur post. since a lot of people are reading books about argos and expos, i guess ur right. i really am trying to figure out how i got as far as i have in my life wihtout knowing what those words mean. and not knowing french? dont get me started on how hard my everyday life is without knowing that language. i guess im an imbecile too. who else here is an imbecile?

Santiago de Landeros
02-01-2008, 01:13 AM
The Toronto "Football" Maple Leafs

Toronto-saurus

Toronto Mounties

ontario_bills
02-01-2008, 01:38 AM
how bout the Buffalo Bills of Toronto

Lynch em' 23
02-01-2008, 01:49 AM
how about thats the gayest idea i ever heard of you flamer....


Toronto sux


players dont want to play in canada

other ppl dont want canada to get a team (thats how pittsburghers feel atleast and my buds from cleveland)

face it everyone would hate them and root against them

Lynch em' 23
02-01-2008, 01:49 AM
lets see ...should we root for the us or ca team


USA! USA! USA! USA!

okbills
02-01-2008, 01:52 AM
Obviously this is a little premature, but i'll bet you the house if the bills ever move to toronto, the canadians will give them the worst name imaginable.


The cranes? The geese? The Pandas or the Starlings? Could you really root for a wussie nickname named after some part of the canadian heritage and culture we don't understand and just looks gay to the rest of the world?


Here's your chance to have a little fun with the toronto announcement..



Post your logos here too if you make them.... Does clipart have a picture of a quail?

Hmmm, I always wondered about that. I thought of Toronto Tomahawks. Toronto has a big Indian connection which they might buy into. I have logo design ideas but no skill in Photoshop to pull it off. A tomahawk has the makings of a T in it. And come to think of it, actually, it goes with the Buffalo theme. Thought, I always thought Toronto would get its own team.

AllOutBlitz
02-01-2008, 02:33 AM
Obviously this is a little premature, but i'll bet you the house if the bills ever move to toronto, the canadians will give them the worst name imaginable.


The cranes? The geese? The Pandas or the Starlings? Could you really root for a wussie nickname named after some part of the canadian heritage and culture we don't understand and just looks gay to the rest of the world?


Here's your chance to have a little fun with the toronto announcement..



Post your logos here too if you make them.... Does clipart have a picture of a quail?

How about the Toronto "hey Jno727 go f*** yourself you ignorant bastard and thank your lucky stars you have canadians to help keep the bills in buffalo" .

UBBALLER8
02-01-2008, 05:37 AM
The Toronto "not going to happen, for oh so many reasons."

How about that.

bataviapartyer
02-01-2008, 07:22 AM
I thought the Allouhette was in reference to the people who first settled Montreal...at least I think I read that in Marv's book.

My friends on my other message board I post at have a creative name, though I don't encourage them....the Toronto Taints

The Alouette is definitely a skylark..... you mean to tell me you never sang the song as a kid? Alouette, gentille alouette, alouette je te plumerai... it means Skylark, gentle skylark. Skylark, I shall pluck you.

And an Argonaut is a mythological group of people that accompanied Jason (Jason and the Argonauts) in his quest for the Golden Fleece... the ship that they were on was named the Argo... and Argonauts literal meaning is Argo Sailors. That's actually a pretty cool name..

squirrell71
02-01-2008, 07:40 AM
I'm all for it. A bigger market, alot more money, new ownership, better place to attract FAs. no more cash to cap. Lets face it. Ralph Wilson and the Buffalo Bills simply can't compete in this league. Find a way for them to compete. If that means moving? so be it. I personally think we just need new ownership but whatever helps this team win, I'm all for it.

BAYCITYBILL
02-01-2008, 08:42 AM
Toronto Traitors

Billhilly
02-01-2008, 09:26 AM
Toronto Loons (Loonies)

chrstph48
02-01-2008, 09:35 AM
The Canadien Geese.

ImpactCorey
02-01-2008, 10:02 AM
The Toronto Tailcoat Riders

3 minute warning
02-01-2008, 10:11 AM
While I'm sure this thread started innocently enough, these are the types of fan threads that are highlighted by the Canadian media to show that Buffalo fans support moving the team to Toronto. "If Bills fans are worried about their team moving to Toronto, they certainly seem to be taking it in stride. In fact, on many fan boards, Bills fans are already suggesting names for the new Toronto team!" This type of garbage was already mentioned on the Toronto sprts radio station this morning.

Sorry, but the Canadian media (owned by Rogers and its media partners) will do anything to twist reality to get the team in Toronto, full-time. Not to be dramatic, but in war (and no offense to those actually engaged in a real war in the past or at this time) the first casualty is the truth. Unfortunately, everything you say can and will be used against you. If I was a Western New Yorker, I'd be insulted, offended, and pissed off.

BuffCity916
02-01-2008, 10:41 AM
I'm all for it. A bigger market, alot more money, new ownership, better place to attract FAs. no more cash to cap. Lets face it. Ralph Wilson and the Buffalo Bills simply can't compete in this league. Find a way for them to compete. If that means moving? so be it. I personally think we just need new ownership but whatever helps this team win, I'm all for it.


Ahh squirell...ever the optimist my friend. **** Ralph/**** Jauron/**** Cash to cap!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHH **** The Bills altogether...New Owner Ship...New Coach...cut all the players!!!!!!

hahahaha...LOL!!! Just messin with you but **** your posts are buzz kills. I just hope Jauron makes it to the playoffs and the team actually wins one game in it...maybe you'll come to your senses :watching:

chaunce54
02-01-2008, 10:58 AM
376
Toronto Tea Baggers.

BuffCity916
02-01-2008, 11:04 AM
376
Toronto Tea Baggers.

Man...this is post #2 in seperate threads with this name...its ok...put down the bag ;)

ugo
02-01-2008, 11:04 AM
That should be the name. Now I'll only be able to afford a game or two.

Knice Hit
02-01-2008, 11:16 AM
I don't want to get too creative on you...but they would probably be the the Toronto Buffalos. Sorry if I just blew your mind with my creativity.

JNo727
02-01-2008, 11:23 AM
Thats classy there..looks real good man... go ahead and make fun of canada.. but the bottom line is without canada this team might not even be in buffalo in a few years considering thats where they need to go to sell out and make money. Question for you.. have you ever even been to a bills game?

What are you talking about? Do you live in Canada or are you just in denial? Take a look at the dumb team names canadians have. All i know is when labatt first started the blue jays they wanted to name the team just Blue, but then all the toronto mothers flipped out and said they couldnt have their city represented by a beer so they added the jays not realizing it is probably one of the worst birds in the bird kingdom. Why wouldnt history repeat itself and another dumb bird like the geese or quails be the new football name?


As for the canadian support at bills games, im not an idiot... i don't have any numbers but i would bet there are more canadians with season tickets between the 20's then rochester and syracuse. That's not the issue here. All we are talking about is the IF the bills move to toronto, they aren't going to be the toronto bills... they are going to be something stupid that nobody outside of canada undertsands. I mean the montreal expos.... enough said. You think the average baseball fan in the US knows what the expo refers to? Some 1967 exposition? That juts dumb, naming your team after a regional significant event that nobody knows about outside of the province. At least the 76ers have national importance. See what i'm saying here? I know some canadians are slow, but i can spell it out for you if you want.


As for your bills game comment... i'm just gonna say yes... If you knew me you'd realize how dumb that comment is. But i think ive already proven your ignorance on several occasions in this thread alone. I wouldn't want to embarrass you any further.

orlandobillsfan
02-01-2008, 11:27 AM
Buffalo AKA the Toronto Bills is probably gonna happen, Think about it the NFL can expand to a whole nother country!!! HMMM

Not much difference in weather, but a better economy in Toronto than buffalo. Maybe if they fired up those "talking proud" commercials again
wait they are 20 years old and 500 more business have closed since then, its a just a downward spiral sports fans. The Bills are circling the drain not the wagons.

5 minutes after Ralph leaves for the Endzone in the Sky - The Bills Memorabilia will skyrocket in value cuz the new owner will move the team.

chaunce54
02-01-2008, 11:27 AM
Man...this is post #2 in seperate threads with this name...its ok...put down the bag ;)

I guess they should have been merged into one thread! I got to put up a picture in this one:thumbsup:

Sampten
02-01-2008, 11:28 AM
Tornoto Hosers!

JNo727
02-01-2008, 11:28 AM
You should read a book so you may find the answers to your questions. That or learn French. You are an imbecile and make yourself look like an idiot.

Je parle francais, but i've found it absolutely useless to know. As for reading books about Argos and Expos... no thanks. If you have to read a book to understand a team name, something is wrong. Your team name should be the number one marketing tool and canadians just don't get that. They instead name their teams after events and birds special to their city and country, when in reality, you'd have to major in greek mythology or canadian history in college just to understand what the team is named after. Thats just dumb. Which is the point of the thread... and a reality of canadian teams.


So without further interuption, and the sad attempt to turn this into a cross- border rivalry, please continue with the names. I've seen some funny ones so far and the pictures are hilarious..


The Toronto tea baggers? haha

orlandobillsfan
02-01-2008, 11:31 AM
Maybe The Toronto Billevers......

JNo727
02-01-2008, 11:32 AM
While I'm sure this thread started innocently enough, these are the types of fan threads that are highlighted by the Canadian media to show that Buffalo fans support moving the team to Toronto. "If Bills fans are worried about their team moving to Toronto, they certainly seem to be taking it in stride. In fact, on many fan boards, Bills fans are already suggesting names for the new Toronto team!" This type of garbage was already mentioned on the Toronto sprts radio station this morning.

Sorry, but the Canadian media (owned by Rogers and its media partners) will do anything to twist reality to get the team in Toronto, full-time. Not to be dramatic, but in war (and no offense to those actually engaged in a real war in the past or at this time) the first casualty is the truth. Unfortunately, everything you say can and will be used against you. If I was a Western New Yorker, I'd be insulted, offended, and pissed off.


Well im glad you're not a western new yorker becaues if you get insulted, offended, and pissed off over a 'suggest what name the toronto team would use' thread, you sound like someone i wouldn't want to ever meet in my life. Get a life loser.

jbinatl
02-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Toronto Gulls (as in Seagulls). Man those things are everywhere.

or

Toronto Americans!

3 minute warning
02-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Well im glad you're not a western new yorker becaues if you get insulted, offended, and pissed off over a 'suggest what name the toronto team would use' thread, you sound like someone i wouldn't want to ever meet in my life. Get a life loser.

Read my post, genius. I said that wny'ers should be pissed off that the Cdn media, owned by the guy that's trying to steal the Bills, is using threads like this to "prove" that Bills fans are a-ok and excited with the Bills moving to Toronto.

BBR-Greg
02-01-2008, 12:01 PM
If Tim Horton's bought the Bills ...

The Toronto Timbits?

Could have donuts on the sides of their helmets. Canadians love donuts. :)

JNo727
02-01-2008, 12:03 PM
Read my post, genius. I said that wny'ers should be pissed off that the Cdn media, owned by the guy that's trying to steal the Bills, is using threads like this to "prove" that Bills fans are a-ok and excited with the Bills moving to Toronto.

Maybe in that conspiracy theory movie. In reality, you're just full of ****. Making posts about the the Toronto teabaggers sure shows us bills fans have come to accept the move to Toronto!!

orlandobillsfan
02-01-2008, 12:14 PM
The Toronto Thundering Herd !

3 minute warning
02-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Maybe in that conspiracy theory movie. In reality, you're just full of ****. Making posts about the the Toronto teabaggers sure shows us bills fans have come to accept the move to Toronto!!

Well, that conspiracy theory was quite real on Toronto's sports radio station this morning. But, my apologies as you seem to know more than me. The fact that the billionaire buying these 8 games from the Bills is the same billionaire that made it clear (and very public) he was going to do everything he could to move the Bills to Toronto once Wilson passes away means nothing. Enjoy!:thumbsup:

geargo
02-01-2008, 12:21 PM
Buffalo AKA the Toronto Bills is probably gonna happen, Think about it the NFL can expand to a whole nother country!!! HMMM

Not much difference in weather, but a better economy in Toronto than buffalo. Maybe if they fired up those "talking proud" commercials again
wait they are 20 years old and 500 more business have closed since then, its a just a downward spiral sports fans. The Bills are circling the drain not the wagons.

5 minutes after Ralph leaves for the Endzone in the Sky - The Bills Memorabilia will skyrocket in value cuz the new owner will move the team.

I dont think Toronto is going to get a team full time. Its just one game a year for the regular season and one Exhitbtion game. First and foremost the NFL needs the CFL. Its a league they can draw players from. It also gives players a second option to play in another pro league if they are cut from the NFL and a place for free agents to go if they cant get a contract in the NFL.
Don't think that the CFL is just going to roll over and let the NFL move in. It has a long tradition in Canada, the Grey Cup started in 1909. The Government of Canada can put a stop expansion to protect a Canadian Tradition. I am a huge football fan of both leagues. However, I do not want to see the NFL expand to Toronto. The CFL is the only pro league that is distinctly Canadian. There at a lot of fans that don't want that to fade away.
The CFL needs Toronto as it is the strongest Market. Mind you the Argos dont draw as well as they used to, but 35,000 to 40,000 fans a game is not bad. Expanding the NFL to Toronto not only could kill the CFL, but it will also displace a lot of players who otherwise could not play in the NFL. There is a ton of college players in the U.S. who have great talent, but because of their size can't play in the NFL. The CFL is a great option for them where they can have a decent football career.

JNo727
02-01-2008, 12:25 PM
Well, that conspiracy theory was quite real on Toronto's sports radio station this morning. But, my apologies as you seem to know more than me. The fact that the billionaire buying these 8 games from the Bills is the same billionaire that made it clear (and very public) he was going to do everything he could to move the Bills to Toronto once Wilson passes away means nothing. Enjoy!:thumbsup:

He's been saying that for how long now? 18 years if I am correct? Until Ralph dies or he proves he can outbid everybody else, hes going to need a whole lot more than tricks on the canadian airwaves to get me pissed off.


You act like it matters if the bills fans 'accept' the move or not. Obviously they aren't going to accept it. Obviously it didn't matter in houston or cleveland. The bills fans don't own the team. Again, i don't see why any of this is relevant or new information.

cashdude
02-01-2008, 12:49 PM
I dont think Toronto is going to get a team full time. Its just one game a year for the regular season and one Exhitbtion game. First and foremost the NFL needs the CFL. Its a league they can draw players from. It also gives players a second option to play in another pro league if they are cut from the NFL and a place for free agents to go if they cant get a contract in the NFL.
Don't think that the CFL is just going to roll over and let the NFL move in. It has a long tradition in Canada, the Grey Cup started in 1909. The Government of Canada can put a stop expansion to protect a Canadian Tradition. I am a huge football fan of both leagues. However, I do not want to see the NFL expand to Toronto. The CFL is the only pro league that is distinctly Canadian. There at a lot of fans that don't want that to fade away.
The CFL needs Toronto as it is the strongest Market. Mind you the Argos dont draw as well as they used to, but 35,000 to 40,000 fans a game is not bad. Expanding the NFL to Toronto not only could kill the CFL, but it will also displace a lot of players who otherwise could not play in the NFL. There is a ton of college players in the U.S. who have great talent, but because of their size can't play in the NFL. The CFL is a great option for them where they can have a decent football career.

Except that the owners of the Argos and Ticats have expressed interest in purchasing an NFL team also, so as to have some control and keep the CFL alive. The CFL in Toronto is very weak. Nobody watches it. The Grey Cup was just here and everyone was walking around wondering what all the setup and festivities were about. The CFLs heart is in the west.

ugo
02-01-2008, 01:12 PM
I dont think Toronto is going to get a team full time. Its just one game a year for the regular season and one Exhitbtion game. First and foremost the NFL needs the CFL. Its a league they can draw players from. It also gives players a second option to play in another pro league if they are cut from the NFL and a place for free agents to go if they cant get a contract in the NFL.
Don't think that the CFL is just going to roll over and let the NFL move in. It has a long tradition in Canada, the Grey Cup started in 1909. The Government of Canada can put a stop expansion to protect a Canadian Tradition. I am a huge football fan of both leagues. However, I do not want to see the NFL expand to Toronto. The CFL is the only pro league that is distinctly Canadian. There at a lot of fans that don't want that to fade away.
The CFL needs Toronto as it is the strongest Market. Mind you the Argos dont draw as well as they used to, but 35,000 to 40,000 fans a game is not bad. Expanding the NFL to Toronto not only could kill the CFL, but it will also displace a lot of players who otherwise could not play in the NFL. There is a ton of college players in the U.S. who have great talent, but because of their size can't play in the NFL. The CFL is a great option for them where they can have a decent football career.

Actually there is another league starting up http://www.allamericanfootballleague.com/

The NFL doesn't need anyone, I also don't think the CFL will die because of a Toronto NFL team. In fact I think the league could thrive. Become more like NFL Europe. Plus once the average fans of Toronto realize the cost of tickets, they have no choice but go to CFL games, since they won't be able to afford season tickets.

Billsfanman
02-01-2008, 01:24 PM
I could never cheer if Buffalo goes to canada. I would never cheer for a team with as much passion as I do for the Buffalo Bills. Its heartbreaking just thing about it.

So Canada will invade the U.S. and take western NY?

Canadian_Bills_Fan
02-01-2008, 01:51 PM
hahahaha, I love how this thread has started such a heated debate. I'll admit I almost got swept up in it, but seriously, what's the point? The Bills are never moving to Toronto, just like the Giants and Dolphins aren't moving to London and the 49ers and Cardinals aren't moving to Mexico City.

GOBILLSGO15
02-01-2008, 02:03 PM
Well im glad you're not a western new yorker becaues if you get insulted, offended, and pissed off over a 'suggest what name the toronto team would use' thread, you sound like someone i wouldn't want to ever meet in my life. Get a life loser.

haha... get a life? are you serious? Dude your on a buffalo bills message board. dont even get me started on the fact that you are attempting to put down canadians and bash there sports teams and the fact that you are showing how trashy americas can be..why shouldnt sports teams be named after city events.. if the team represents a city then why the hell not..

FlaFitz
02-01-2008, 02:04 PM
Don't they have quite a large Asian population?

Maybe they could take a page out the Nippon Pro League and call the team the Toronto Nippon Ham Fighters.


I still like the Toronto A's



BTW - the Buffalo Bills plays in Orchard Park so if the team plays in Toronto shouldn't they follow the precedent and be called the Brampton or Oakville or Mississauga A's?

OLDTIMEAFLGUY
02-01-2008, 02:27 PM
Don't they have quite a large Asian population?

Maybe they could take a page out the Nippon Pro League and call the team the Toronto Nippon Ham Fighters.


I still like the Toronto A's



BTW - the Buffalo Bills plays in Orchard Park so if the team plays in Toronto shouldn't they follow the precedent and be called the Brampton or Oakville or Mississauga A's?


...nope...the Toronto Transplants......

MadBuffalo
02-01-2008, 02:28 PM
Toronto Eunuchs

Wiggs.
02-01-2008, 02:32 PM
Rather spend my cash on NCAA international bowl, best game I've seen in years.

WABillsFan
02-01-2008, 02:40 PM
The new team will be:

"The Toronto Gas-Masters"

With Terrence and Phillip as the mascots!!!

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_sp4_1.jpg


Every touchdown will be celebrated with an Alanis Morrisette song and the whole team shouting "EH!!!"

third down shaud
02-01-2008, 02:51 PM
What are you talking about? Do you live in Canada or are you just in denial? Take a look at the dumb team names canadians have. All i know is when labatt first started the blue jays they wanted to name the team just Blue, but then all the toronto mothers flipped out and said they couldnt have their city represented by a beer so they added the jays not realizing it is probably one of the worst birds in the bird kingdom. Why wouldnt history repeat itself and another dumb bird like the geese or quails be the new football name?


As for the canadian support at bills games, im not an idiot... i don't have any numbers but i would bet there are more canadians with season tickets between the 20's then rochester and syracuse. That's not the issue here. All we are talking about is the IF the bills move to toronto, they aren't going to be the toronto bills... they are going to be something stupid that nobody outside of canada undertsands. I mean the montreal expos.... enough said. You think the average baseball fan in the US knows what the expo refers to? Some 1967 exposition? That juts dumb, naming your team after a regional significant event that nobody knows about outside of the province. At least the 76ers have national importance. See what i'm saying here? I know some canadians are slow, but i can spell it out for you if you want.


As for your bills game comment... i'm just gonna say yes... If you knew me you'd realize how dumb that comment is. But i think ive already proven your ignorance on several occasions in this thread alone. I wouldn't want to embarrass you any further.

if we start arguing which birds are better than others it will offically be the new low point of discussion on this message board.

and that says a lot considering the other day someone said george wilson should be our #2 receiver, and there are people on here who think hamdan should be the starter next year

LABILLBACKER
02-01-2008, 03:43 PM
....we have the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim......now you'll have the Buffalo Bills of Toronto......this whole Toronto talk is giving me an ulcer....save us Jim....................

8years&waiting
02-01-2008, 04:15 PM
If Tim Horton's bought the Bills ...

The Toronto Timbits?

Could have donuts on the sides of their helmets. Canadians love donuts. :)

I was thinking along those lines. Maybe the Toronto Tim's, with the Tim Hortons logo replacing the buffalo on our throwback helmets.

TwentyThree
02-01-2008, 09:10 PM
The Toronto Tumors

NFL Toronto
02-01-2008, 09:58 PM
How's the Toronto Loons?

Or the Tornto Flying Squirrels?

Maybe the Toronto Walrus?

Ghawk
02-02-2008, 12:00 AM
He's been saying that for how long now? 18 years if I am correct? Until Ralph dies or he proves he can outbid everybody else, hes going to need a whole lot more than tricks on the canadian airwaves to get me pissed off.


You act like it matters if the bills fans 'accept' the move or not. Obviously they aren't going to accept it. Obviously it didn't matter in houston or cleveland. The bills fans don't own the team. Again, i don't see why any of this is relevant or new information.

Tom Golisano will keep the Bills in Buffalo! A native Rochestarian, owner of the Sabres, and billionare in his own right. Mark it down Toronto, Mr. Golisano will have something for Mr. Rogers when the time comes!

FrostbitMic
02-02-2008, 12:32 AM
The Toronto Tooks .... or is that touques ?

geargo
02-02-2008, 12:53 AM
Except that the owners of the Argos and Ticats have expressed interest in purchasing an NFL team also, so as to have some control and keep the CFL alive. The CFL in Toronto is very weak. Nobody watches it. The Grey Cup was just here and everyone was walking around wondering what all the setup and festivities were about. The CFLs heart is in the west.

The CFL in toronto is weak? where did you get this news? 35,000 to 40,000 fans a game is not what I call weak. Nobody watches it? The Argos games have higher ratings then baseball, basketball and I am sorry to say the NFL the numbers are there to prove it. The Grey Cup was sold out a month before the game. The Grey cup in Toronto was a huge success. 16,000 people at the convention centre alone in one afternoon. I could not even find a decent hotel room for the game, Please check your information before you draw your conclusions. The Grey cup is the highest rated sports event in Canada.

Here is a link to prove it http://toronto.cflgreycup.ca/

3 minute warning
02-02-2008, 01:22 AM
The Toronto Wannabe's

geargo
02-02-2008, 02:20 PM
The Toronto Losers

geargo
02-02-2008, 02:20 PM
How about the Toronto Theives

TTboy
02-03-2008, 03:56 PM
lets see ...should we root for the us or ca team


USA! USA! USA! USA!
This isnt about america vs canada this is about our football team
not being able to survive in buffalo in the forseeable future.....would you rather have them move to LA? i wouldnt

TTboy
02-03-2008, 03:58 PM
the next pick in the 2012 draft goes to the Toronto Blizzard......u have 10 mins to make your selection

bunnerjk
02-03-2008, 06:42 PM
Toronto Traders!!!!

GoGoBills
02-03-2008, 07:11 PM
More importantly, we need to begin to think about the new (or modified logo). I was thinking we could take the "blue streak" from the current Bills logo and position it vertically... we could then turn it into a CN Tower... we'd just need like a little circular, restaurant thing at the top. We could also put a Maple Leaf on the animal... you know like brand it... brand it Canadian.

This is so cool, two cities, two countries, sharing a franchise.

denniskirby
02-03-2008, 07:11 PM
The Bills arent moving to Toronto. Be warned. You cant tailgate in Canada unless theres no beer. The police and every dogooder will be all over you

geargo
02-03-2008, 11:41 PM
The Bills arent moving to Toronto. Be warned. You cant tailgate in Canada unless theres no beer. The police and every dogooder will be all over you

Yea thats the big thing, you wont be able to tailgate at the skydome unlike the ralph... there is no place downtown to tailgate at all and thats the big thing for football is it not?

orlandobillsfan
02-04-2008, 10:14 AM
Wake the heck up people !

This request is just testing testingt he waters. If this test is successful, and when Ralph passes what makes you think that any owner in his right mind whold keep a team in cold weather, lowest ticket prices of any team town ?


Get real !

Y'all love the Bills I get it, they are our team in WNY, but frankly they have never been that good(glory years 90-93 the exception). But It's been a long time since the Glory years.

THE NFL is all about money today, most of the other teams have it and we dont !


Al Gore said it best - Its time for them to go !

rhinocoach
02-04-2008, 05:30 PM
O.K. I don't Expect any of you to Know this but back in the 70's there was a hockey league that went up against the NHL called the WHL and the team in toronto at the time was called the "Toronto Toro's". that would be the best name in this case keeping the bovine connection alive.
having said that. I as a PROUD BILLS SEASON ticket holder and a PROUD CANADIAN would rather gargle glass than watch the NFL in Toronto. I WILL NOT ATTEND, PAY FOR or SUPPORT the BILLS in Toronto. there is a hundred (make that 73 thousand) reasons not to take the bills on the road to T.O. and only one to go ahead. Ralph is a coward... he could have gone annother route to attract Business interests to come to Orchard Park to sit in his heated boxes and eat sushi but no he sold us out and expect us to just smile and wave as they truck on up to Toronto. And where is the NFL in all this. Don't the city, Bills fans get a say?????????? why not?????? I agree It's his money but WE put it there. One other little secret... Ontario... and the rest of canada don't like Toronto. they are smug self serving a ssholes who think the rest of the country has to serve their interests ( Toronto is the centre of the universe- they say it and mean it, we say it as a punch line) so having said that Don't blame Canada, You can have toronto, if the sheep in toronto corperate wouldn't pay 200 dollars a seat per game for absolute garbage hockey this wouldn't be an issue but people WILL thier season tickets to their family for leaf games. the real geniuses are the marketing/ brainwashers who actually get leaf fans to PAY to watch their beloved leafs loose on T.V. thats right there is a Premium channel on ROGERS CABLE that is exclusively Leafes Hockey. No wonder Ralph want's a shot at this market they are mentally handicapped and pay for what is normally free.

GoGoBills
02-04-2008, 05:41 PM
O.K. I don't Expect any of you to Know this but back in the 70's there was a hockey league that went up against the NHL called the WHL and the team in toronto at the time was called the "Toronto Toro's". that would be the best name in this case keeping the bovine connection alive.
having said that. I as a PROUD BILLS SEASON ticket holder and a PROUD CANADIAN would rather gargle glass than watch the NFL in Toronto. I WILL NOT ATTEND, PAY FOR or SUPPORT the BILLS in Toronto. there is a hundred (make that 73 thousand) reasons not to take the bills on the road to T.O. and only one to go ahead. Ralph is a coward... he could have gone annother route to attract Business interests to come to Orchard Park to sit in his heated boxes and eat sushi but no he sold us out and expect us to just smile and wave as they truck on up to Toronto. And where is the NFL in all this. Don't the city Bills fans get a say?????????? why not?????? I agree It's his money but WE put it there. One other little secret... Ontario... and the rest of canada don't like Toronto. they are smug self serving a ssholes who think the rest of the country has to serve their interests ( Toronto is the centre of the universe- they say it and mean it, we say it as a punch line) so having said that Don't blame Canada, You can have toronto, if the sheep in toronto corperate wouldn't pay 200 dollars a seat per game for absolute garbage hockey this wouldn't be an issue but people WILL thier season tickets to their family for leaf games. the real geniuses are the marketing/ brainwashers who actually get leaf fans to PAY to watch their beloved leafs loose on T.V. thats right there is a Premium channel on ROGERS CABLE that is exclusively Leafes Hockey. No wonder Ralph want's a shot at this market they are mentally handicapped and pay for what is normally free.

Canada can relate though...

We've lost prized, supported NHL teams to southern states that, arguably, don't care for hockey.

Winnipeg, Quebec

uncleted327
02-04-2008, 05:42 PM
I agree Rhino, don't blame Canada, and no I'm not Canadian. Blame Bills management for sticking it to the loyal fans like this. I drive over 2 hours to get to the games from Eastern New York and if the fans in Toronto wanted to go to games they would be doing the same already, its an even shorter drive. I will continue to buy my season tickets and support the Bills, with the exception of anything having to do with the Toronto Crap.

By the way if they do move I have a good name for them too,
The Toronto Turds.

rhinocoach
02-04-2008, 05:45 PM
too true GOGO, too true

rhinocoach
02-04-2008, 05:49 PM
uncleted you miss the point. normal working stiffs like ourselves don't buy $250.00 seats (One thou a game for me and my family.. really?...really?) Toronto fans won't buy those seats any sooner than we will it's only the corperate $'s that make this viable.
if you really want someone to blame try ol' George Dubya for tanking your economy and making sure there is no corperate $'s IN Buffalo.

STUCKINSTEELERCOUNTRY
02-04-2008, 05:52 PM
The Peameal Bills :thumbsup:

uncleted327
02-04-2008, 05:58 PM
uncleted you miss the point. normal working stiffs like ourselves don't buy $250.00 seats (One thou a game for me and my family.. really?...really?) Toronto fans won't buy those seats any sooner than we will it's only the corperate $'s that make this viable.
if you really want someone to blame try ol' George Dubya for tanking your economy and making sure there is no corperate $'s IN Buffalo.

That is my point, sorry I guess i didn't get it across that well.

rhinocoach
02-04-2008, 06:05 PM
my bad, glad most of us are ont the same page.

RPM
02-05-2008, 02:33 PM
in the meantime the team will be known as
Buffalo can't pay the Bills

fonz92004
02-05-2008, 03:09 PM
the obvious...


The Toronto Dollar Bills

moof93
02-05-2008, 06:24 PM
Obviously, the Toronto Buffalos.

Drummerboy2064
02-05-2008, 06:43 PM
uncleted you miss the point. normal working stiffs like ourselves don't buy $250.00 seats (One thou a game for me and my family.. really?...really?) Toronto fans won't buy those seats any sooner than we will it's only the corperate $'s that make this viable.
if you really want someone to blame try ol' George Dubya for tanking your economy and making sure there is no corperate $'s IN Buffalo.

i think its more ny state government thats responsible for upstate's economy, not "george dubya." were represented by people voted in by nyc, not upstate ny, because they have a much higher population. and their wants and needs are very different from ours which is why we get the **** end of the stick.

uneek
02-05-2008, 07:12 PM
at $250 a ticket its easy the toronto bill's payer's

draft day always
02-05-2008, 07:31 PM
The Toronto Stealers.

JNo727
02-05-2008, 08:39 PM
uncleted you miss the point. normal working stiffs like ourselves don't buy $250.00 seats (One thou a game for me and my family.. really?...really?) Toronto fans won't buy those seats any sooner than we will it's only the corperate $'s that make this viable.
if you really want someone to blame try ol' George Dubya for tanking your economy and making sure there is no corperate $'s IN Buffalo.

You heard it here first: Toronto will sell out every single ticket at the average price of 250 a seat for all 8 games. 2000 over 5 years is nothing for toronto. This is a spectacle and nobody has to worry about it selling... whether or not it will be popular is the real question..


So, after 5 straight years of a positive economy everywhere else in the country , a great job market, better everything, we hit a recession and its george dubaya's fault? Makes sense. Why don't we blame harry truman while you're at it. I mean, the population in buffalo has been tanking since then 1950's so maybe he is to blame? The fact that buffalo wasn't booming like the rest of the country the past 5 years should give you your answer: buffalo is run by a bunch of idiots and it won't change until someone smarter with a real plan comes in and changes things. People have been waiting 25 years for someone to step up, but it hasnt happened. If we ever actually do lose the bills or sabres, blame them... Don't blame george dubya.

rhinocoach
02-06-2008, 05:11 PM
deny the Dubya connection all ya want. deny you are in a recession, deny global warming and evolution while you are at it. local govenment may have handcuffed you but dubya rolled ya'll in a carpet and threw you on the river.
it's not a republican vs. democrat thing he is just a complete *****. it is not a war vs. soldier thing he is just a stupid little boy playing with lives. it is not an us against them thing he is just a paronoid little tool who puts his interests above the common good of his people and the world. so yes in a large way the bush empire created economic fiasco in WNY and the rest of the USA is a huge part of why Ralph went to Toronto for money.

Drummerboy2064
02-06-2008, 05:26 PM
deny the Dubya connection all ya want. deny you are in a recession, deny global warming and evolution while you are at it. local govenment may have handcuffed you but dubya rolled ya'll in a carpet and threw you on the river.
it's not a republican vs. democrat thing he is just a complete *****. it is not a war vs. soldier thing he is just a stupid little boy playing with lives. it is not an us against them thing he is just a paronoid little tool who puts his interests above the common good of his people and the world. so yes in a large way the bush empire created economic fiasco in WNY and the rest of the USA is a huge part of why Ralph went to Toronto for money.

hahaha oh man, put down the michael moore books and go find a friend. u have no idea what ur talking about. we are all a lot dumber after reading that post. please dont even respond to me cuz if you truly believe what u just said, ur not even worth arguing with.

RPM
02-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Toronto Toros

here's a website if you want ticket info
http://billsintoronto.com/

Ookie Mexico
02-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Do you guys even know what Buffalo's reputation is around North America? It's not pretty.

Why would people want to live in an area where you get socked with snow repeatedly over a 5 to 7 month period? There is also no world class ski resorts around for the snow lovers.

People move south and west because the climate is better, as a result, companies move there too.

JNo727
02-06-2008, 06:19 PM
deny the Dubya connection all ya want. deny you are in a recession, deny global warming and evolution while you are at it. local govenment may have handcuffed you but dubya rolled ya'll in a carpet and threw you on the river.
it's not a republican vs. democrat thing he is just a complete *****. it is not a war vs. soldier thing he is just a stupid little boy playing with lives. it is not an us against them thing he is just a paronoid little tool who puts his interests above the common good of his people and the world. so yes in a large way the bush empire created economic fiasco in WNY and the rest of the USA is a huge part of why Ralph went to Toronto for money.

How many tries did it take to turn on your computer today? Do you blame dubya for your stupidity as well?

billyinthebuff
02-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Traîtres de bufflesse

billyinthebuff
02-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Sumac

http://www.troop364.org/Images/i642-3.gif

Drummerboy2064
02-06-2008, 07:30 PM
Do you guys even know what Buffalo's reputation is around North America? It's not pretty.

Why would people want to live in an area where you get socked with snow repeatedly over a 5 to 7 month period? There is also no world class ski resorts around for the snow lovers.

People move south and west because the climate is better, as a result, companies move there too.

dont forget about taxes. western ny tends to be more of a conservative place but as i said earlier, theres more voters in nyc which is a ton more liberal. they want higher taxes to pay for more social programs and that only hurts us and the businesses here. so not only do people leave here due to the climate, businesses leave because they can keep more of their profits in the south. this allows companies to expand and that stimulates the economy, but companies leaving obviously hurts ours. its not just buffalo, im from rochester and i remember when bausch and lomb left. a ton of my friends moved to florida cuz thats where the company went.

SiC
02-06-2008, 07:44 PM
Obviously this is a little premature, but i'll bet you the house if the bills ever move to toronto, the canadians will give them the worst name imaginable.


The cranes? The geese? The Pandas or the Starlings? Could you really root for a wussie nickname named after some part of the canadian heritage and culture we don't understand and just looks gay to the rest of the world?


Here's your chance to have a little fun with the toronto announcement..



Post your logos here too if you make them.... Does clipart have a picture of a quail?


Well lets see...Toronto's newest team is called the Toronto Raptors...Yeah a Raptor sure is wussy! us canadians r so friggin friendly Eh??

I know your trying to make this a joke but it is not funny...There are a lot of canadians on this board and I for one, being a proud supporter of your own Buffalo team, do not appreciate you calling my country and it's heritage "wussy"

DynamicxBillsFan
02-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Do you guys even know what Buffalo's reputation is around North America? It's not pretty.

Why would people want to live in an area where you get socked with snow repeatedly over a 5 to 7 month period? There is also no world class ski resorts around for the snow lovers.

People move south and west because the climate is better, as a result, companies move there too.

And that reputation was established 30 years ago and is no longer true today. Buffalo does NOT get wacked with snow repeatedly for 5-7 months. Thats the biggest load of garbage I have ever heard. Heck I wish that was true. As a snowmobiler I am lucky to get a solid month in without trailering to the south towns or mountains.

Over the past decade this city sees maybe one good snow storm a season. Snow fall totals have been way down and spread across the late January to late March time frames with the exception of the occasional freak storm.

Buffalo is far from the snow town people outside of this area think they are.

Now the local govt. and NYS govt. on the other hand are a very good reason not to come to this city or NYS as a whole. Its just not conducive to conducting business. I am incorporated here and I am seriously thinking about moving my entire operation to the Caymans or if I were to remain in the US the FL keys.

SiC
02-06-2008, 07:57 PM
What are you talking about? Do you live in Canada or are you just in denial? Take a look at the dumb team names canadians have. All i know is when labatt first started the blue jays they wanted to name the team just Blue, but then all the toronto mothers flipped out and said they couldnt have their city represented by a beer so they added the jays not realizing it is probably one of the worst birds in the bird kingdom. Why wouldnt history repeat itself and another dumb bird like the geese or quails be the new football name?


As for the canadian support at bills games, im not an idiot... i don't have any numbers but i would bet there are more canadians with season tickets between the 20's then rochester and syracuse. That's not the issue here. All we are talking about is the IF the bills move to toronto, they aren't going to be the toronto bills... they are going to be something stupid that nobody outside of canada undertsands. I mean the montreal expos.... enough said. You think the average baseball fan in the US knows what the expo refers to? Some 1967 exposition? That juts dumb, naming your team after a regional significant event that nobody knows about outside of the province. At least the 76ers have national importance. See what i'm saying here? I know some canadians are slow, but i can spell it out for you if you want.

once again a Raptor is probly more bad @ss than any NFL mascot ever

Big B
02-06-2008, 07:59 PM
once again a Raptor is probly more bad @ss than any NFL mascot ever
If you've ever seen a Raptor fight a Bill, you would jump to the other side quickly.:thumbsup:

Drummerboy2064
02-06-2008, 08:17 PM
Well lets see...Toronto's newest team is called the Toronto Raptors...Yeah a Raptor sure is wussy! us canadians r so friggin friendly Eh??

I know your trying to make this a joke but it is not funny...There are a lot of canadians on this board and I for one, being a proud supporter of your own Buffalo team, do not appreciate you calling my country and it's heritage "wussy"

ok, u can name the one bad *** name just like u can name the few wussy american names like the cardinals. the point was that most of the canadian football names are ******ed. sorry you got so offended, ur acting as if it was YOU who came up with the name "argos." the other point is that it IS your heritage, something that the rest of the NFL fans in the US would know nothing about. just another reason to not move a team to canada.

MadBillsFan
02-06-2008, 09:04 PM
Toronto Carpetbaggers

Big B
02-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Toronto Liars
Toronto Disloyalists
Toronto Traitors
Toronto Abandoners
Toronto Treasonists

all D
02-06-2008, 09:49 PM
It truly doesn't matter what they call themselves. I have always been a huge fan of the Buffalo Bills. They are the only N.Y. team. If they move to Canada they can take their name, their team and stuff it. I spent so much time, money and effort into being a Buffalo Bills fan. I love the City, the people and the best tailgate parties I have ever been to. No more tailgates in North North America and no more fan here!!!

Ookie Mexico
02-07-2008, 09:14 AM
dont forget about taxes. western ny tends to be more of a conservative place but as i said earlier, theres more voters in nyc which is a ton more liberal. they want higher taxes to pay for more social programs and that only hurts us and the businesses here. so not only do people leave here due to the climate, businesses leave because they can keep more of their profits in the south. this allows companies to expand and that stimulates the economy, but companies leaving obviously hurts ours. its not just buffalo, im from rochester and i remember when bausch and lomb left. a ton of my friends moved to florida cuz thats where the company went.

New York City has higher taxes than Buffalo, yet their business community is better than Buffalo. Same thing with Toronto.

You don't think people leave New York State because of the climate? You are delusional. Where are all the wealthy retirees flocking to Buffalo.

JNo727
02-07-2008, 12:47 PM
Well lets see...Toronto's newest team is called the Toronto Raptors...Yeah a Raptor sure is wussy! us canadians r so friggin friendly Eh??

I know your trying to make this a joke but it is not funny...There are a lot of canadians on this board and I for one, being a proud supporter of your own Buffalo team, do not appreciate you calling my country and it's heritage "wussy"


How is barney dribbling a basketball tough?






Again, i dont see why you are getitng so offended at facts.

JNo727
02-07-2008, 12:51 PM
New York City has higher taxes than Buffalo, yet their business community is better than Buffalo. Same thing with Toronto.

You don't think people leave New York State because of the climate? You are delusional. Where are all the wealthy retirees flocking to Buffalo.

NYC is the financial capital of the world. Buffalo was a manufacturing capital, but that line of work has been obsolete for some time now and it refuses to re-invent itself like Pittsburgh and cleveland have. Instead of becoming a banking headquarters or a college town, it has just whithered away into a nothing, "remember the good old days" city. Nothing is going to change unless someone makes things change, and nobody in buffalo seems to get that. It's sad too. You have a top SUNY school, two professional sports teams, toronto 90 minutes away, and two world class banks headquartered in your city to build upon, and nothing ever happens. Its sad and pathetic.

Ookie Mexico
02-07-2008, 12:56 PM
NYC is the financial capital of the world. Buffalo was a manufacturing capital, but that line of work has been obsolete for some time now and it refuses to re-invent itself like Pittsburgh and cleveland have. Instead of becoming a banking headquarters or a college town, it has just whithered away into a nothing, "remember the good old days" city. Nothing is going to change unless someone makes things change, and nobody in buffalo seems to get that. It's sad too. You have a top SUNY school, two professional sports teams, toronto 90 minutes away, and two world class banks headquartered in your city to build upon, and nothing ever happens. Its sad and pathetic.

You also have the downtown Lake front being developed and Niagara Falls not far away. But downtown Buffalo is a scary place to be with boarded up buildings and Niagara Falls looks like a third world country filled with tattoo and porn shops. These places can't change unless a majority of the people want it to change.

flyricky
02-07-2008, 03:53 PM
ya and u look so smart telling someone to read a book as a response to something. especially with the "old lecture" emoticon above ur post. since a lot of people are reading books about argos and expos, i guess ur right. i really am trying to figure out how i got as far as i have in my life wihtout knowing what those words mean. and not knowing french? dont get me started on how hard my everyday life is without knowing that language. i guess im an imbecile too. who else here is an imbecile?

I am getting sick of some people insulting Canadians whom which are Buffalo Bills fans for the threat of losing their team. If you want to blame somebody blame your president for ruining your economy and making it possible for a team from the United States forced to move to a larger market up north. I am still a Buffalo Bills fan and I travel from afar to spend money to watch my favourite team.

Drummerboy2064
02-07-2008, 05:17 PM
New York City has higher taxes than Buffalo, yet their business community is better than Buffalo. Same thing with Toronto.

You don't think people leave New York State because of the climate? You are delusional. Where are all the wealthy retirees flocking to Buffalo.

i didnt say PEOPLE dont leave because of the climate, i said BUSINESSES leave due to taxes. if you cant read what i post then YOURE delusional.

bold part responded to perfectly by this statement:

NYC is the financial capital of the world. Buffalo was a manufacturing capital, but that line of work has been obsolete for some time now and it refuses to re-invent itself like Pittsburgh and cleveland have. Instead of becoming a banking headquarters or a college town, it has just whithered away into a nothing, "remember the good old days" city. Nothing is going to change unless someone makes things change, and nobody in buffalo seems to get that. It's sad too. You have a top SUNY school, two professional sports teams, toronto 90 minutes away, and two world class banks headquartered in your city to build upon, and nothing ever happens. Its sad and pathetic.

You also have the downtown Lake front being developed and Niagara Falls not far away. But downtown Buffalo is a scary place to be with boarded up buildings and Niagara Falls looks like a third world country filled with tattoo and porn shops. These places can't change unless a majority of the people want it to change.

ok, and whats ur point? thats just agreeing with what we've been saying, isnt it?

I am getting sick of some people insulting Canadians whom which are Buffalo Bills fans for the threat of losing their team. If you want to blame somebody blame your president for ruining your economy and making it possible for a team from the United States forced to move to a larger market up north. I am still a Buffalo Bills fan and I travel from afar to spend money to watch my favourite team.

haha again another person blaming it on the president. ill give u a free pass cuz i dont expect a canadian to knwo anything abotu our economy. but ill just tell u that ur ignorant to say that its the president's fault, so if u wish to not be ignorant, then u should think about learning the real reasons. or u could just read the last page or two of this thread.

awesome, im glad u do drive that far. i dont live in buffalo, my drive is similar in distance from toronto (minus the border) and is a ***** drive too. that has nothing to do with not wanting the team to be moved from buffalo to anywhere else.

JNo727
02-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Ok, now that the political debate has ended... anyone got any more names and/or pictures?

My favorite is still the Grouse complete with pictures on page 1.

Ookie Mexico
02-17-2008, 10:25 PM
i didnt say PEOPLE dont leave because of the climate, i said BUSINESSES leave due to taxes. if you cant read what i post then YOURE delusional.




haha again another person blaming it on the president. ill give u a free pass cuz i dont expect a canadian to knwo anything abotu our economy. but ill just tell u that ur ignorant to say that its the president's fault, so if u wish to not be ignorant, then u should think about learning the real reasons. or u could just read the last page or two of this thread.

awesome, im glad u do drive that far. i dont live in buffalo, my drive is similar in distance from toronto (minus the border) and is a ***** drive too. that has nothing to do with not wanting the team to be moved from buffalo to anywhere else.

Can you speak English? No wonder Western New York's economy is so bad.

JNo727
02-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Can you speak English? No wonder Western New York's economy is so bad.

First off, What are you talking about?


Second off, how does a message board post reflect an entire region's economy status?

Drummerboy2064
02-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Can you speak English? No wonder Western New York's economy is so bad.

would u like me to explain something to u? i dont think what i said was that hard to comprehend... or are all people from (insert wherever ur from here) that slow?

geargo
02-18-2008, 03:24 PM
Toronto Toros

here's a website if you want ticket info
http://billsintoronto.com/


Toronto Toros was the name of the old WHA team here in Toronto that lasted about a year up here.

3 minute warning
02-18-2008, 04:23 PM
Another failed Toronto pro franchise. Question is: what lasted longer - the WHA's Toronto Toros or Ted Roger's first pro football team, the Arena League's Toronto Phantoms?

Hint: AFL Phantoms lasted for only one season, drawing an average crowd of less than 5,000 per game. So much for five million rabid sports fans throwing their money at anything sports related...;)

canonater
02-19-2008, 12:42 PM
Another failed Toronto pro franchise. Question is: what lasted longer - the WHA's Toronto Toros or Ted Roger's first pro football team, the Arena League's Toronto Phantoms?

Hint: AFL Phantoms lasted for only one season, drawing an average crowd of less than 5,000 per game. So much for five million rabid sports fans throwing their money at anything sports related...;)

Totally agree. At $250.00 a seat per game The Suits was a good choice.
My preference - The Toronto Maple Losers

Jeffrey93
02-20-2008, 03:47 AM
Obviously this is a little premature, but i'll bet you the house if the bills ever move to toronto, the canadians will give them the worst name imaginable.


The cranes? The geese? The Pandas or the Starlings? Could you really root for a wussie nickname named after some part of the canadian heritage and culture we don't understand and just looks gay to the rest of the world?


Here's your chance to have a little fun with the toronto announcement..



Post your logos here too if you make them.... Does clipart have a picture of a quail?
How about the Toronto Bald Eagles. Yeah....that's right. Bald Eagles. Your national logo.....is a Canadian bird.

Aside from this nationality posturing.....I'd say the name for a Toronto NFL team (let's hope it never happens) would be Toronto Toros with a Bill/Bull like logo.
That or they'll come up with something boneheaded like the Raptors. How *****ic. How long did the Jurassic Park craze last? Maybe a year? And the fools named their team after it!!!
Basketball players are tall, no? Wouldn't Toronto Towers be better for a basketball team? Logo would be Toronto (CN Tower type image)owers.
Too easy!
Getting into logos on a Bills message board FORCES me to bring up the Sabres.....they had the BEST logo in the league when they had the buffalo and sabres in a circle......the city and team name was completely represented on their jersey without a single letter. Lovely!
They're closer now to the great ones of the past....but the numbers on the front are a big let down. Hopefully the Sabres will go back to the old jerseys....I might just buy one if they do!

P.S. - How are Pandas "part of the canadian heritage and culture"??? Is it like how pizza is part of the American culture?

geargo
02-20-2008, 11:36 AM
How about the Toronto Bald Eagles. Yeah....that's right. Bald Eagles. Your national logo.....is a Canadian bird.

Aside from this nationality posturing.....I'd say the name for a Toronto NFL team (let's hope it never happens) would be Toronto Toros with a Bill/Bull like logo.That or they'll come up with something boneheaded like the Raptors. How *****ic. How long did the Jurassic Park craze last? Maybe a year? And the fools named their team after it!!!
Basketball players are tall, no? Wouldn't Toronto Towers be better for a basketball team? Logo would be Toronto (CN Tower type image)owers.
Too easy!
Getting into logos on a Bills message board FORCES me to bring up the Sabres.....they had the BEST logo in the league when they had the buffalo and sabres in a circle......the city and team name was completely represented on their jersey without a single letter. Lovely!
They're closer now to the great ones of the past....but the numbers on the front are a big let down. Hopefully the Sabres will go back to the old jerseys....I might just buy one if they do!

P.S. - How are Pandas "part of the canadian heritage and culture"??? Is it like how pizza is part of the American culture?

For those who remember that name was given to the WHA franchise back in 1973 or 1974.

slodrive
02-20-2008, 03:58 PM
For those who remember that name was given to the WHA franchise back in 1973 or 1974.

...that was the Birmingham Bulls before that. The team of the legendary Steve "Demolition" Durbano. Hockey has seen few like him before, or since.

r4758
02-21-2008, 10:41 AM
What are you talking about? Do you live in Canada or are you just in denial? Take a look at the dumb team names canadians have.

Maybe you're in denial. There are all kinds of lame team names in the U.S.
You have the red sox, and the white sox, and that's just a start. It's just that when you think of these teams you think of their legacy, but you could never call a team that now. And then you have knickerbockers, another team name with a local history. The Phillies, short for Philadelphias. Come on, the Philadelphia Philadelphias!!! I'm not saying these are bad names, but if these were Canadian franchise names you would condemn them. I think you're biased.

And now you have the Tampa Bay Rays. What was wrong with Devil Rays? If a Canadian team called itself the Rays, you'd be saying there must be a lot of guys named Ray up there.

All i know is when labatt first started the blue jays they wanted to name the team just Blue, but then all the toronto mothers flipped out and said they couldnt have their city represented by a beer so they added the jays not realizing it is probably one of the worst birds in the bird kingdom. Why wouldnt history repeat itself and another dumb bird like the geese or quails be the new football name?

I'd say Labatt promoting their beer with their ball team is nowhere near as bad as Disney promoting a movie and naming a team the Mighty Ducks, which has to be the worst name in all of sports.

they are going to be something stupid that nobody outside of canada undertsands. I mean the montreal expos.... enough said.

Kansas City Royals. They too are named after a fair... enough said.

You think the average baseball fan in the US knows what the expo refers to? Some 1967 exposition? That juts dumb, naming your team after a regional significant event that nobody knows about outside of the province. At least the 76ers have national importance. See what i'm saying here? I know some canadians are slow, but i can spell it out for you if you want.

76ers, ok I will agree. But what about the 49ers? Is the California gold rush of the 1840s a regional significant event? By your definition the New Jersey Devils would also be a bad name because it refers to something local to New Jersey...something that also borders on mythology.

JNo727
02-21-2008, 11:19 AM
Maybe you're in denial. There are all kinds of lame team names in the U.S.
You have the red sox, and the white sox, and that's just a start. It's just that when you think of these teams you think of their legacy, but you could never call a team that now. And then you have knickerbockers, another team name with a local history. The Phillies, short for Philadelphias. Come on, the Philadelphia Philadelphias!!! I'm not saying these are bad names, but if these were Canadian franchise names you would condemn them. I think you're biased.

And now you have the Tampa Bay Rays. What was wrong with Devil Rays? If a Canadian team called itself the Rays, you'd be saying there must be a lot of guys named Ray up there.



I'd say Labatt promoting their beer with their ball team is nowhere near as bad as Disney promoting a movie and naming a team the Mighty Ducks, which has to be the worst name in all of sports.



Kansas City Royals. They too are named after a fair... enough said.



76ers, ok I will agree. But what about the 49ers? Is the California gold rush of the 1840s a regional significant event? By your definition the New Jersey Devils would also be a bad name because it refers to something local to New Jersey...something that also borders on mythology.

so are you going to suggest a lame toronto football team name or just show your ignorance by COMPLETELY missing the point? You named a bunch of dumb names in US pro sports. The only difference is they all play in American leagues. The expos, jays,

-the californian gold rush was not just a regional event

- the point of bringing up the blue jays name was not to say promoting beer was not a good idea. In fact, the toronto blue would be a cooler name than jays. However, toronto pussified a good idea by adding the jays because they can't be associated with alcohol even though that is probably more a part of their culture than a blue jay. Disney was promoting their entire brand name by owning a hockey team. It's not lame, its a good business tactic. The only problem is the people of southern cali could care less about hockey.

- The devil rays are pretty much desperate at this point. They think a name change will change their loser image, when in reality, derek jeter has more in his pocket when he goes out than the devil rays pay their players. To be honest, they'd be better off naming themselves the ray bans and giving out free sunglasses to all 5,000 people who watch their games. They won't be in tampa in 10 years imo. Bad example.


- royals were named after a convention, but since then have come to be associated with kings. Its hard to associate an expo with another word.

- i'm not biased. i just dont understand why you have to take this as a "canada sucks" post. This was supposed to be fun, but thanks for helping to ruin it. Go ahead and make fun of US traditional teams like the sox and knicks. They were named in a different era. Maybe a sox was bad@ss in 1890?

Lynch em' 23
02-24-2008, 03:14 PM
Toronto Gays (happy)

standingbuffalo
02-24-2008, 05:58 PM
not that it would ever happen, but how about the toronto buffalo bills. buffalo bill was a real historic figure, the team could just use his whole name as their nickname.

billsfanpozlynch
02-24-2008, 06:15 PM
it will be the "Toronto j74jf jfjjjjjjj;;;////'s" because I am going to enjoy the Bills in Buffalo and I'd would give my life for the Bills to stay in Buffalo

Go Bills

Black Ice
03-01-2008, 06:00 PM
I will call them nonexistant.

orlandobillsfan
03-20-2008, 04:17 PM
I'm thinking the Travelers

billzmark
03-20-2008, 04:21 PM
......Nothing like a thread to promote hatred, stereotyping, and bigitry....Tipical.

hankthetank
03-22-2008, 09:50 AM
"Toothless Beavers"
"Crap it's even colder then Buffalo up here Bills"
"Ice Fishermen"
"Hour away from the Buffalo Bills"
"Toronto Buffalo Bills"
"Commuters"
"Queen Es"
"Rust Belt Escapees"
"Over the Peace Bridge and Take a Right Bills"

............

woodyGXC
03-22-2008, 02:13 PM
We're not moving

ThrillingBills
03-22-2008, 07:46 PM
We're not moving

And the Easter Bunny will be coming tonight too.

Bones1389
03-23-2008, 04:29 PM
The Toronto Eh Holes! Come to TO, drink some Molson's, eh. We're aboot to get ripped, eh.

JNo727
03-23-2008, 04:34 PM
LOL I wonder what the helmet logo would look like!

nickd1989
03-23-2008, 10:23 PM
the bills will not be moving. we can't be bought. nfl won't let it happen. politics of this area won't let it happen. ESPECIALLY TRUE BILLIEVERS WON'T let this happen! Canadians fans:thumbsup: Canadian bills:thumbsdown:
NOT GONNA HAPPEN!:billsflag:

GoBills2008
03-23-2008, 11:32 PM
the bills will not be moving. we can't be bought. nfl won't let it happen. politics of this area won't let it happen. ESPECIALLY TRUE BILLIEVERS WON'T let this happen! Canadians fans:thumbsup: Canadian bills:thumbsdown:
NOT GONNA HAPPEN!:billsflag:

Raider, Browns, Colts, Cardinals, Rams, and Oiler fans all said the same thing in the last 25 yeards. We know where it got them.

nickd1989
03-23-2008, 11:52 PM
ya i know these teams are got moved. but the history and the business that this team conveys within this community strives on it. Also western new york. In my opinion if we moved out of new york to Can nah duh! then we would be taking away our own american traditions. just like we have to baseball. Being a bills fan all my life, just sayings, it will be really hard for me if this for some odd reason actually fall through excepting them as the team they were.

brivers
03-24-2008, 01:37 AM
Toronto Mounties
Toronto Bills (one has to wonder what a Bill is - hell make something else up)....
Toronto Buffalos
Toronto Ghetto New Yorkers Who Moved In And Tore Things Up

cherubiceric
03-24-2008, 02:49 AM
The Toronto Blue Bills

GoBills2008
03-26-2008, 09:46 AM
ya i know these teams are got moved. but the history and the business that this team conveys within this community strives on it. Also western new york. In my opinion if we moved out of new york to Can nah duh! then we would be taking away our own american traditions. just like we have to baseball. Being a bills fan all my life, just sayings, it will be really hard for me if this for some odd reason actually fall through excepting them as the team they were.

You mean American traditions like talking about hockey all year round, going to Tim Hortons for donuts and coffee, drinking lots of Molsons? Yup, Buffalo is filled with American traditions.

And would you mind elaborating on American traditions being taken away in baseball? We would like to hear that, Goobs.

Drummerboy2064
03-26-2008, 10:08 PM
You mean American traditions like talking about hockey all year round, going to Tim Hortons for donuts and coffee, drinking lots of Molsons? Yup, Buffalo is filled with American traditions.

And would you mind elaborating on American traditions being taken away in baseball? We would like to hear that, Goobs.

Ya, since we do that SOOOO much, don't we?

GoBills2008
03-27-2008, 09:09 AM
Ya, since we do that SOOOO much, don't we?

You are from Pittsford, not Buffalo. So you don't know that much about the city. You do know that Erie and Niagara Counties have 80 Tim Hortons? Yeah, only Canadians go there. You also know that Tim Hortons is one of the chief sponsor of the Bills?

You also know that Buffalo consumes more Molsons than any other American city?

Yeah, Buffalo is such the qiunessential American city.:rolleyes:

JNo727
03-27-2008, 10:51 AM
You are from Pittsford, not Buffalo. So you don't know that much about the city. You do know that Erie and Niagara Counties have 80 Tim Hortons? Yeah, only Canadians go there. You also know that Tim Hortons is one of the chief sponsor of the Bills?

You also know that Buffalo consumes more Molsons than any other American city?

Yeah, Buffalo is such the qiunessential American city.:rolleyes:

Actually Buffalo's beer of choice is Labatt Blue... check yoru labels. Labatt USA, Buffalo, NY. yea, we are so wannabe canadian. Molson is now owned by Coors. Both slightly above average beers at a reasonable price in buffalo.

Buffalo is no different than any border town. Detroit/Northern Michigan, Northern North Dakota, Northern Vermont... you see canadian influences throughout these places. You'll also see it go the other way. I mean, look at toronto a.k.a. america light.

I've lived in both buffalo and rochester and Rochester isn't that much different. The most popular beer here is labatt as well. We don't have the Candian networks on our cable, but we still have influences as well (a tim horton's on every corner, which i prefer to starbucks anyways) and cheap canadian beer. Tim Horton's has a solid business model, which is why it was successful expanding into the US. Cheaper, fresh coffee, fresh donuts, and great sandwiches. Is every other city in the world wannabe Seattle because they prefer Starbucks? No. They just prefer their coffee and haven't had the chance to experience tim horton's yet. It has nothing to do iwth being canadian though.

RiskyBizz19
03-27-2008, 11:22 AM
Keep the BILLS IN BUFFALO, these canadian games are BULL SH!T. Canada hasn't caughten on to how real football is played, and how a professional football league should be run. Goodell is a pompuss bastard who wants more money in his pockets, while Season Ticket Holders at the RALPH get shorted a regular season game for the next 5 years but yet still pay for the full 8 games, they (adjusted it) my a$$, i payed the same for 8 games last year...total bs


War drafting Malcolm Kelly, and selling out all the 09 draft picks to move up for Lymus SWEED as well. No TE, 2 monster Recievers.

GoBills2008
03-27-2008, 12:14 PM
Keep the BILLS IN BUFFALO, these canadian games are BULL SH!T. Canada hasn't caughten on to how real football is played, and how a professional football league should be run. Goodell is a pompuss bastard who wants more money in his pockets, while Season Ticket Holders at the RALPH get shorted a regular season game for the next 5 years but yet still pay for the full 8 games, they (adjusted it) my a$$, i payed the same for 8 games last year...total bs


War drafting Malcolm Kelly, and selling out all the 09 draft picks to move up for Lymus SWEED as well. No TE, 2 monster Recievers.

Buffalo hasn't caught on how real football is played for almost a decade.

Goodnell is looking for keeping his teams and league healthy as they venture into unstable labor relations in the next couple of years. He is going to get paid well no matter what.

Buffalo was charging the lowest for season tickets in the league. To raise revenue they had to raise them.

Learn what it takes to run a business before biatching about being a have not.

The Edwards Empire
03-27-2008, 05:22 PM
The Toronto g@ylords

Drummerboy2064
03-27-2008, 05:45 PM
You are from Pittsford, not Buffalo. So you don't know that much about the city. You do know that Erie and Niagara Counties have 80 Tim Hortons? Yeah, only Canadians go there. You also know that Tim Hortons is one of the chief sponsor of the Bills?

You also know that Buffalo consumes more Molsons than any other American city?

Yeah, Buffalo is such the qiunessential American city.:rolleyes:

Haha, I'm glad you know so much about my life and knowledge of Buffalo from my profile. Did my profile mention if I was born in Buffalo or not? And how long I've lived there, been there, how many relatives live there, or how long I've lived in that general area?

As for having Tim Hortons and drinking Canadian beers, did you ever think it was because this is a city that is an hr away from Canada and that maybe, I dunno, the people who wandered from Canada to Buffalo decided to influence those numbers a little bit by purchasing things that they purchased where they came from? Makes sense, doesn't it?

Actually Buffalo's beer of choice is Labatt Blue... check yoru labels. Labatt USA, Buffalo, NY. yea, we are so wannabe canadian. Molson is now owned by Coors. Both slightly above average beers at a reasonable price in buffalo.

Buffalo is no different than any border town. Detroit/Northern Michigan, Northern North Dakota, Northern Vermont... you see canadian influences throughout these places. You'll also see it go the other way. I mean, look at toronto a.k.a. america light.

I've lived in both buffalo and rochester and Rochester isn't that much different. The most popular beer here is labatt as well. We don't have the Candian networks on our cable, but we still have influences as well (a tim horton's on every corner, which i prefer to starbucks anyways) and cheap canadian beer. Tim Horton's has a solid business model, which is why it was successful expanding into the US. Cheaper, fresh coffee, fresh donuts, and great sandwiches. Is every other city in the world wannabe Seattle because they prefer Starbucks? No. They just prefer their coffee and haven't had the chance to experience tim horton's yet. It has nothing to do iwth being canadian though.

Exactly

Buffalo hasn't caught on how real football is played for almost a decade.

Goodnell is looking for keeping his teams and league healthy as they venture into unstable labor relations in the next couple of years. He is going to get paid well no matter what.

Buffalo was charging the lowest for season tickets in the league. To raise revenue they had to raise them.

Learn what it takes to run a business before biatching about being a have not.

What are you talking about? Are you bashing Buffalo's front office or the people who live there? I know this isn't true for most other cities with sports teams, but in Buffalo, for the team to make money, the team has to be good, and as soon as the Bills put out a winning team (which they seem to be in the process of doing), they wont have to worry about selling out or having low ticket prices, thats a fact.

GoBills2008
03-27-2008, 05:59 PM
Haha, I'm glad you know so much about my life and knowledge of Buffalo from my profile. Did my profile mention if I was born in Buffalo or not? And how long I've lived there, been there, how many relatives live there, or how long I've lived in that general area?

As for having Tim Hortons and drinking Canadian beers, did you ever think it was because this is a city that is an hr away from Canada and that maybe, I dunno, the people who wandered from Canada to Buffalo decided to influence those numbers a little bit by purchasing things that they purchased where they came from? Makes sense, doesn't it?



what are you talking about? Are you bashing Buffalo's front office or the people who live there? I know this isn't true for most other cities with sports teams, but in Buffalo, for the team to make money, the team has to be good, and as soon as the Bills put out a winning team (which they seem to be in the process of doing), they wont have to worry about selling out or having low ticket prices, thats a fact.

You are not helping yourself when you say that Buffalo is an hour away from Canada. Are your public schools that bad at teaching geograghy?

BillsCanFan
03-27-2008, 07:33 PM
why does this topic of conversation always end in canadian / american bashing. are we all really that dissimalar (especially with respect to the differences between western new york and the "golden horseshow" as they call it).

first to the canadians, lets stop it with our inferiority complex. ok....america doesn't have health care, has spotty foreign policies and a "holier than thou" attitude when it comes to communicating with canadians. but if we keep acting like america's whiny little younger brother then who can blame them for their skewed thinking.

and americans, lets stop it with your "we are better, cause we are american" nonsense. we all get it....you are all VERY powerful, you have a lot of fighter jets and no one wants to mess with you. ok...you are the current days roman empire....but look what happened to them. despite what you may think or believe...canadians aren't all that different from yourselves...sure our governments have different agendas but we all watch american idol, we all want to see the grand canyon one day and males on both sides of the border know their sports (yes, we know all about the nfl...we get all the games...we even get the NFL network). i've watched the nfl for as long as i've watched the nhl.

STOP the country bashing!!!


bottom line....it wasn't the population of toronto who made the decision to hold games at the skydome (circa), it was ralph's decision. do i think the bills should be moved to toronto....No. do i think the city of toronto deserves a team...YES. we can't bash people on this forum for decisions that are made without our blessing or consideration.

come on people. we are lucky to have eachother as neighbors. we have the longest unprotected border on earth...and while all those countries on the other side of the pond can't last a week without starting another war over territory, we've all lived in peace for well over a century now. lets accept our differences and stop bashing eachother over ridiculous nonsense.

Drummerboy2064
03-27-2008, 08:07 PM
You are not helping yourself when you say that Buffalo is an hour away from Canada. Are your public schools that bad at teaching geograghy?

What? I left out the word "within," where did you learn how to read through a post looking for a typo so that you didn't have to respond to anything the person said?

Jeez, exactly what the last poster said, you're not helping the issue when you start arguments like "Buffalo isn't an American city because it does a lot of Canadian things." And worst of all, you sound like you think you know everything. I'm not even expecting a reply to this message, I think you're really just gonna point out where I left out a comma or said "good" instead of "well."

CUHATIN23
03-27-2008, 09:53 PM
I hope this Toronto thing never happens i liked the BILLS my whole life but if they move to canada i will never like them again

CUHATIN23
03-27-2008, 09:54 PM
[QUOTE=Drummerboy2064;563979] Yo i love your mock draft 2 bad you are not the 1 who drafts

Drummerboy2064
03-27-2008, 10:50 PM
[QUOTE=Drummerboy2064;563979] Yo i love your mock draft 2 bad you are not the 1 who drafts

Haha, thanks, I hope we go all out offense like that. Sweed, Davis, and Schmitt would help our offense out so much. I'd actually prefered if they traded down to around #20, did the exact same draft but with an extra 2nd in which they took a CB or DE.

Papsmear
03-28-2008, 07:37 AM
It was such a fiasco when Toronto named their basketball team. Raptors? *** has a raptor got to do with Toronto? So I will assume that they will pick another foolish name for their football team.

Toronto Terror
Toronto Towers

xftbllfreakx
03-28-2008, 07:54 AM
No This Is Not A Fun Chance It Is Blasphemy... I Dont Care What They Are Called If They Ever Move ... I Will Drink And Cry Myself To Death... Or Near It Atleast...

no kidding...and i should be old enough to drink by then...lol

GoBills2008
03-28-2008, 09:23 AM
What? I left out the word "within," where did you learn how to read through a post looking for a typo so that you didn't have to respond to anything the person said?

Jeez, exactly what the last poster said, you're not helping the issue when you start arguments like "Buffalo isn't an American city because it does a lot of Canadian things." And worst of all, you sound like you think you know everything. I'm not even expecting a reply to this message, I think you're really just gonna point out where I left out a comma or said "good" instead of "well."

I don't know everything, but I do know the distance Buffalo is from Canada.

Sports Illustrated discounted Buffalo as Hockey Town USA because there was too many Tim Hortons and too many ehs. I am not the only one who thinks that.

pancsi
03-28-2008, 10:32 AM
It was such a fiasco when Toronto named their basketball team. Raptors? *** has a raptor got to do with Toronto? So I will assume that they will pick another foolish name for their football team.

Toronto Terror
Toronto Towers

Toronto didn't name the Raptors. That came from the NBA and commissioner Stern.

Bones1389
03-28-2008, 11:00 AM
The Houston expansion team had a fan contest to name the team and the best they could do was "Texans." Gee, how'd they ever come up with that?

If Toronto gets a team (and that better not be the Bills) they should just pick a name that is cool and not worry about relating it to the city or province. Like Wolverines or something that is awesome no matter what city its in. But, they'll probably get creative and call them the Toronto Maple Canadian Canuck Senators.

GoBills2008
03-28-2008, 11:40 AM
The Houston expansion team had a fan contest to name the team and the best they could do was "Texans." Gee, how'd they ever come up with that?

If Toronto gets a team (and that better not be the Bills) they should just pick a name that is cool and not worry about relating it to the city or province. Like Wolverines or something that is awesome no matter what city its in. But, they'll probably get creative and call them the Toronto Maple Canadian Canuck Senators.

Do a little research and find about the history of the name "Texans".

What does the name Bills have to do with Buffalo? The real Buffalo Bill had no history with western NY. What is the deal with the Bison on the Bills helmet? There was never any Bison or Buffalo in WNY as far as recorded history shows.

Bones1389
03-28-2008, 12:07 PM
Do a little research and find about the history of the name "Texans".

What does the name Bills have to do with Buffalo? The real Buffalo Bill had no history with western NY. What is the deal with the Bison on the Bills helmet? There was never any Bison or Buffalo in WNY as far as recorded history shows.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I just thought in this day and age they could have come up with something better than Texans from a fan contest. The Bills are named as such as an homage to the team that played there before the existence of the AFL. Now who knows why that original team was named Bills, but in 2002 I think the Houston team could've done better.

GoBills2008
03-28-2008, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I just thought in this day and age they could have come up with something better than Texans from a fan contest. The Bills are named as such as an homage to the team that played there before the existence of the AFL. Now who knows why that original team was named Bills, but in 2002 I think the Houston team could've done better.

The Texans were the name of the AFL Dallas team that became the Kansas City Chiefs, so that name has historical usage.

Texas often thinks of itself as a nation (which it was for a little while) instead of a state. It would be like the NHL teams Canucks and Canadians. The name Texans symbolizes the whole state of Texas, not just Houston. It gives Dallas haters in Texas another team to work for.

JNo727
03-28-2008, 01:14 PM
I don't know everything, but I do know the distance Buffalo is from Canada.

Sports Illustrated discounted Buffalo as Hockey Town USA because there was too many Tim Hortons and too many ehs. I am not the only one who thinks that.

Dude, you are really full of yourself. Do everyone a favor and stop posting in this thread. You add no value at all to this post or any others. This was supposed to be a fun way to make light of all the doomsdayers who think by having an annual game in toronto, it means the bills will be moving to toronto.


You like a fool took it as an insult to your country. Nobody hates toronto. It is a nice place to visit. I used to live in dallas and the city reminds me a lot of it.

I suggest you take your useless posts to the questions, suggestions and comments thread http://boards.buffalobills.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13

Here, you can make the suggestion that this board include advanced features like spell check and grammar check. Who knows, maybe you can even get a unique feature added to this board: Useless Geographical Check. That way, nobody will make any mistakes as to how far canada is from buffalo and we won't have to waste your time correcting us.


Jeez, the day i'm corrected by a future gas station attendant...

Drummerboy2064
03-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Make sure you don't leave out the word "within" from your posts. I dunno, I would read over my posts several times and correct my mistakes more, but I have other things to do...

Its okay though, everyone can see that when you respond with just pointing out a mistake like that, and ignore the rest of the post, you clearly have no response to the rest of it.

But its okay, don't ban him from this thread. This guy knows how close Buffalo is to Canada. And he's a Canadian bashing my public schools. You knew I was from Pittsford, and you seem to have fun researching pointless crap all day, do you wanna look and see where in the top 100 high schools Pittsford is rated at every year? Its okay, you don't have to, I'm sure you have a lot better stuff to do. I'm sure someone who says:

"You're from Pittsford, not Buffalo."
"Learn what it takes to run a business before biatching about being a have not."
"Are your public schools that bad at teaching geograghy?"
"Do a little research and find about the history of the name "Texans"."

to people on a message board has a TON of friends...

BillsCanFan
03-28-2008, 07:38 PM
wow...hahaha...last two posters hit the nail on the proverbial head. this guy is a certified nuissance...but his posts don't bother me that much because they are quite comical. when you're THAT pretentious you need to have something to say...and he never has anything to say. don't paint all of us canadian bills fans with the same brush. we too; unfortunately, have idiots among us.

there are those of us (the majority i'd say) who think the bills belong in buffalo and nowhere else. and though i do support the games in toronto as part of a plan to keep the bills in buffalo, i would not support any permanent moves. i do think toronto deserves a franchise (and could easily support one), but a supplanted bills team would be sacrilege as far as i'm concerned. you would understand if you've ever met a winnipeg jet fan...or were over the age of twelve...


if you're going to argue, do it inteligently and with a little more class.

* see if you can find any corrections to make on this one. and remember, websters says we're allowed to start sentences with "and" now...let me know my mark in your next post...

(oh no!!! i didn't capitalize Buffalo!!!)

GoBills2008
03-30-2008, 08:42 AM
Dude, you are really full of yourself. Do everyone a favor and stop posting in this thread. You add no value at all to this post or any others. This was supposed to be a fun way to make light of all the doomsdayers who think by having an annual game in toronto, it means the bills will be moving to toronto.


You like a fool took it as an insult to your country. Nobody hates toronto. It is a nice place to visit. I used to live in dallas an