Trading is suspended until further notice...

[BrotherChazz]

Thanks to several of you acting like babies, the league lost it's transaction secretary, and therefor, trading is hereby suspended until further notice.

[BuffCity916]

Thanks to several of you acting like babies, the league lost it's transaction secretary, and therefor, trading is hereby suspended until further notice.

Come on guys...let's be civilized in this thing...this has been a great experience for many of us and would hate for it to fall apart due to infighting...

Cant' we all get along :idunno:

[LasherRowanfaire]

Come on guys...let's be civilized in this thing...this has been a great experience for many of us and would hate for it to fall apart due to infighting...

Cant' we all get along :idunno:

Ditto. Sure all of us are bound to get a little testy at times but no reason not to brush it off, apologize/accept apologies, and move on. We are all obvously very passionate about this, or we wouldn't be doing it. So from now on, how about we all, myself included, take a second to breathe and think before starting to bash something/someone just because it/they did something you don't like. I fell ashamed that Beast stepped down because of the way we, myself included, have acted at times.

[BrotherChazz]

Well whatever happened tonight was enough to tick Beast off and get him to quit as contracts secretary...unfreakin believable. You all just made this 20 times harder on me...

[BrotherChazz]

It looks like unless beast changes his mind...there will be no trading until the draft is over.

[THE GURU]

gives these guys respect its allready time cosuming picking the team getting involved without everyone whining, treat these guys with respect I would suggest if you can find someone to do it that trades can take place on weekends only be much easier on everybody imo

[Trubillsfan]

Well whatever happened tonight was enough to tick Beast off and get him to quit as contracts secretary...unfreakin believable. You all just made this 20 times harder on me...

It wasnt today that got him ticked, it was yesterday. His mind was already set before the draft even started tonight.

[Lirdoco]

I never thought it was that much of a mess. So no more trades?

[Zman]

I never thought it was that much of a mess.

Everything must have happened behind "closed doors" so to speak. It's the only thing I can think of.

I got a little touchy with him with the whole time thing earlier tonight, but I didn't think it was THAT big of a deal....he fixed it right up.

Guess it was the straw.............

[androk]

My team made a Day 1 trade that was posted wrong and I didnt want to get shafted so I didnt make my pick until everything was cleared out. Sorry that happened but there wasn't much else I could do.

I hope that wasn't what caused Beast to resign, I thought it was handled very well.

[Lirdoco]

androk, weren't you ready to become the transaction secretary?

[androk]

androk, weren't you ready to become the transaction secretary?

I am the Contracts Secretary

[BillsFanOntario]

I hope I didn't set him off, but I thought we were going by the same thing as yesterday, in that we had a time slot for our picks. I came back about 10 minutes before my pick was due, at yesterdays time to see that I was about to be on the clock, and before my time would have even started I was missed. I had almost decided by that time.

Checked in a bit more frequently the second time. I just think its gonna be unrealistic to expect people to be here when its 5 minute timers, when we have to do this for the next month. A set time works for me.

Maybe a poll should go up to see what the league favors. If it is 5 minute timers, I'm fine with it. Just want consistency.

[androk]

I hope I didn't set him off, but I thought we were going by the same thing as yesterday, in that we had a time slot for our picks. I came back about 10 minutes before my pick was due, at yesterdays time to see that I was about to be on the clock, and before my time would have even started I was missed. I had almost decided by that time.

Checked in a bit more frequently the second time. I just think its gonna be unrealistic to expect people to be here when its 5 minute timers, when we have to do this for the next month. A set time works for me.

Maybe a poll should go up to see what the league favors. If it is 5 minute timers, I'm fine with it. Just want consistency.

I think the way it works is that the end of your time slot is the time you have to submit your pick by.

BUT if the team before you picks 1 minute into their slot, the next team is free to pick. If enough teams pick real quick, you have the opportunity to pick, say, 20 minutes, before your slot. That doesn't mean your deadline got bumped up, just that you can choose sooner.

[Skeletor]

Chazz, I think everyone sees exactly how difficult it is to participate and have a team. I'd just do away with any and all trading from this point on. You said other leagues don't even allow trading. Well, this is a learning experience for everyone, and I guess we know why now.

Nobody's going to have the time to take out of their evenings for the next 5-7 weeks to do this. It's ridiculous. I don't blame Beast at all. It's WAY too time consuming.

I would step up and help, but I think the whole prospect is just nuts, having to control the draft, post the picks AND rummage through these complicated trades AND have to deal with the attitudes.

Just cut off trading in FA and call it a day.

Let trading come back when FA is OVER and I'll take back up the transaction secretary position when we're done. Have player trades and a deadline for all rookie trading. This FA stuff is way too time intensive. I'll do it for the rookie draft and AFTER FA, but not before.

Just my 2 cents. It's really unreasonable. There will be less trading after FA is done. Rookie picks are total crap-shoots, so I don't think there'll be THAT much movement.

How about:

The time in between when FA is done, and the rookie draft starts, everyone do their trades right before the Rookie draft starts. It'll help people with salary cap issues and such. Trade FA players then, not picks. Have a trade period of say, 5 days. Then cut it all off again when the rookie draft starts.

Again...I'll help in that regard, but I'm certainly not taking on this crap that Beast had to deal with.


Change the rules.

[BeastOfTheEast]

Chazz, I think everyone sees exactly how difficult it is to participate and have a team. I'd just do away with any and all trading from this point on. You said other leagues don't even allow trading. Well, this is a learning experience for everyone, and I guess we know why now.

Nobody's going to have the time to take out of their evenings for the next 5-7 weeks to do this. It's ridiculous. I don't blame Beast at all. It's WAY too time consuming.

I would step up and help, but I think the whole prospect is just nuts, having to control the draft, post the picks AND rummage through these complicated trades AND have to deal with the attitudes.

Just cut off trading in FA and call it a day.

Let trading come back when FA is OVER and I'll take back up the transaction secretary position when we're done. Have player trades and a deadline for all rookie trading. This FA stuff is way too time intensive. I'll do it for the rookie draft and AFTER FA, but not before.

Just my 2 cents. It's really unreasonable. There will be less trading after FA is done. Rookie picks are total crap-shoots, so I don't think there'll be THAT much movement.

How about:

The time in between when FA is done, and the rookie draft starts, everyone do their trades right before the Rookie draft starts. It'll help people with salary cap issues and such. Trade FA players then, not picks. Have a trade period of say, 5 days. Then cut it all off again when the rookie draft starts.

Again...I'll help in that regard, but I'm certainly not taking on this crap that Beast had to deal with.


Change the rules.

It's really a total of a lot.

1- trying to get home from work and finalizing deals. Deals that have been made, then a party backs out, getting deals that one of the parties doesn't get the right compensation in, and having to deal with that.

2- Attempting to make it easier on people by putting up a readable draft board so teams can know who has been taken. I read a few posts about not knowing who was taken yet, but it was clearly at the top of the days draft board, and the free agent tracker thread lists all players taken to date.

I think if some are taking the time to make it available to all as far as who has been taken, it certainly wouldn't hurt to print Chazz's player rankings out and cross the players taken each day off those lists. That's what I am doing as well as trying to make it easy for everyone involved.

Today, I believe it happened twice, where people picked players that already had been picked. I had to point that out to them. I understand it can happen but this is only the third and fourth rounds...what happens when we get further down the road in this draft. Anyway, at least I just pointed their mistake out to them and didn't give them a cyber tongue lashing.

Also, with todays time limit, that was my bad. Chazz apparently posted times somewhere, but I never seen them and thought we were going on a 5 minute rule. That was my fault but I tried to make it right. A little understanding instead of *****ing would have helped out.

Not to mention the PM's I have to follow from teams sending in draft boards, asking questions about the draft, all while trying to keep up on things. Non mods. like myself, have a 50 PM limit in their PM box so I had to constantly delete PM's as well after reading them while trying to make sure I wasn't deleting people's draft boards.

And add onto all this trying to run my franchise properly. I mean, that is why I wanted to be in this league...to have some fun.

The last two days have been nothing but fun so what is the sense? Who the hell wants to take all that on and get *****ed at constantly?

[Skeletor]

It's really a total of a lot.

1- trying to get home from work and finalizing deals. Deals that have been made, then a party backs out, getting deals that one of the parties doesn't get the right compensation in, and having to deal with that.

2- Attempting to make it easier on people by putting up a readable draft board so teams can know who has been taken. I read a few posts about not knowing who was taken yet, but it was clearly at the top of the days draft board, and the free agent tracker thread lists all players taken to date.

I think if some are taking the time to make it available to all as far as who has been taken, it certainly wouldn't hurt to print Chazz's player rankings out and cross the players taken each day off those lists. That's what I am doing as well as trying to make it easy for everyone involved.

Today, I believe it happened twice, where people picked players that already had been picked. I had to point that out to them. I understand it can happen but this is only the third and fourth rounds...what happens when we get further down the road in this draft. Anyway, at least I just pointed their mistake out to them and didn't give them a cyber tongue lashing.

Also, with todays time limit, that was my bad. Chazz apparently posted times somewhere, but I never seen them and thought we were going on a 5 minute rule. That was my fault but I tried to make it right. A little understanding instead of *****ing would have helped out.

Not to mention the PM's I have to follow from teams sending in draft boards, asking questions about the draft, all while trying to keep up on things. Non mods. like myself, have a 50 PM limit in their PM box so I had to constantly delete PM's as well after reading them while trying to make sure I wasn't deleting people's draft boards.

And add onto all this trying to run my franchise properly. I mean, that is why I wanted to be in this league...to have some fun.

The last two days have been nothing but fun so what is the sense? Who the hell wants to take all that on and get *****ed at constantly?

That's exactly it. This has been trial and ERROR it seems.

I'd just cut off all FA trading. The first few rounds are over with and that's the most important part of the trades anyways. Everyone had a philosophy and it's been revealed now, so who the heck needs to trade anymore, anyways?

I got my target few, and everyone else seems to have done the same. The premier players are gone. All the QB's, RB's and most WR's are gone.

So....

Why are we making this more difficult?

Again:

Cut off trading until FA is done. Re-implement the trading for a period of 3-5 days so we can swap players and adjust cap hits for those who can't calculate the correct cap hit. Allow trading of rookie picks.

Then:

No trading during rookie draft at that point either. Let it run its course so we don't have people leave the dam league all-together. Someone is going to get peeved and give up if all this junk continues.

Chazz...how about some input on this?

Beast?

M

[BrotherChazz]

Unfortunately we are probably heading that way Skeletor...

My goal was to increase the fun/GM/realistic aspect of it all by allowing trading during the draft. Unfortunately...the minority has ruined it for the majority.

[Trubillsfan]

It was too much for Beast to handle, or for anybody that has a team to handle as a matter of fact.

I think the best way to go would to assign a non-owner to this position. That way they dont have to deal with trades all while trying to get their team together.

Just stopping trades completely I dont think is right. Thats making rules as we go along which isnt the way to go. Yes, we live and we learn. But lets try it out with a non-owner and see how better it is. And if it doesnt work out then, then after all this is over, have the council vote it out for the future.

[Skeletor]

Unfortunately we are probably heading that way Skeletor...

My goal was to increase the fun/GM/realistic aspect of it all by allowing trading during the draft. Unfortunately...the minority has ruined it for the majority.

Don't beat yourself up over it. The big stuff is over, as mentioned.

Let's just make this an enjoyable experience now. Let's keep the time time slots consistent, too.

For example:

I pick at 6:15 and 9:45. That means for the next 5 weeks I can COUNT on that. I go to the gym in between those times, like last night.

As long as we can do that, it'll keep the riff-raff to a minimum and make this process a lot easier.

All good dude. You guys have done the best job you can so far, and THANK YOU again.

Catch ya tonight-

M

[BrotherChazz]

It was too much for Beast to handle, or for anybody that has a team to handle as a matter of fact.

I think the best way to go would to assign a non-owner to this position. That way they dont have to deal with trades all while trying to get their team together.

Just stopping trades completely I dont think is right. Thats making rules as we go along which isnt the way to go. Yes, we live and we learn. But lets try it out with a non-owner and see how better it is. And if it doesnt work out then, then after all this is over, have the council vote it out for the future.

Ok...find me one person who I can trust (must have a good reputation on the board, a reasonable ammount of time spent here and post count, a person who would put the league's best interest first, and not have ties to a team in the league) who is willing to be here daily for the next two months and devote the time that it takes - 4+ Hours a day. Now accepting applications...

[Skeletor]

It was too much for Beast to handle, or for anybody that has a team to handle as a matter of fact.

I think the best way to go would to assign a non-owner to this position. That way they dont have to deal with trades all while trying to get their team together.

Just stopping trades completely I dont think is right. Thats making rules as we go along which isnt the way to go. Yes, we live and we learn. But lets try it out with a non-owner and see how better it is. And if it doesnt work out then, then after all this is over, have the council vote it out for the future.

You find someone willing to give up the next 5 weeks that's not even involved in the league and I'll be impressed, but I still don't think that's the right thing to do.

[Skeletor]

Ok...find me one person who I can trust (must have a good reputation on the board, a reasonable ammount of time spent here and post count, a person who would put the league's best interest first, and not have ties to a team in the league) who is willing to be here daily for the next two months and devote the time that it takes - 4+ Hours a day. Now accepting applications...

BINGO....that's the kicker right there...

[Trubillsfan]

Ok...find me one person who I can trust (must have a good reputation on the board, a reasonable ammount of time spent here and post count, a person who would put the league's best interest first, and not have ties to a team in the league) who is willing to be here daily for the next two months and devote the time that it takes - 4+ Hours a day. Now accepting applications...

I said a non-owner, why couldnt it be someone that is part of a staff other than like the GMs?

[BuffCity916]

I've read through this thread a couple times and have to agree with Skeletor. This trading stuff has gotten out of control. I mean there are no basic boundaries...plus for most of us...this is a first.

I have had many offers but my team has stayed the course and made not one move simply because we want to make sure our team is built properly. Nothing wrong with staying where you are at for the first FA draft and should people feel they are comfortable by the rookie draft...then implement it but with someone that isn't involved on one of these teams and or someone that is on a team but has the time to review and post all of the moves.

[BrotherChazz]

I said a non-owner, why couldnt it be someone that is part of a staff other than like the GMs?

In an ideal world, not having ties to a team would eliminate any questionable ethics...but it's not a neccessity....because it's not realistic.

[directFX]

The whole absentee ballot thing is a bit of a joke.

If you cannot make it to the draft, then you should have to pick at the end, just like Chazz did.....or HIRE A STAFF.

It is a courtesy to have someone pick for you from a list I guess, but it is unrealistic to say the least. What happens when 5 teams cannot show up? Is the secretary gonna pick for 5 teams, and his own? Garbage.


There are pains with the league right now cause it is the first time. But it will smooth out.



1. The "time slots" are the best idea. Regardless of how fast we go, it only makes sense to stick to hard time slots cause lets face it, people have to eat and interact with the spouse and whatnot. Everyone should know when they are drafting and get their pick in in their time slot at the latest. If we are ahead, great......but the time slots need to be rigid, as we saw last night, someone was counting on that time slot being there. If you miss your pick, just like the NFL, you are on the clock still, but the next team gets to go. Get your pick in when you can.

2. Trading is a pain but I think is necessary even during the draft. Chazz if I were you, I would make it so that the trade is announced by the team drafting at that moment...

--- The Grudge wish to trade their pick to Team A for thier 6th and 7th round picks.

--- Next post, Team A agrees or declines.

--- Next post is an approval or denial from you.

If it doesnt get in by the time their slot is over, the next team is free to pick. The responsibility of trading is not that of the league, but of the owners....period. If you screw yourself, too bad......hence the person who owns the next pick announcing they WANT to trade their pick for _________ and to whom.

Not to mention, this way, it is documented for future reference.

3. Draft tracking. Posting the picks the way Beast was doing it in the first post of the draft day thread is PERFECT. I have been using it regularly. It works, why change it?

If a team owner/staff cannot figure this simple part out, that is their own fault.

AND...If a team picks a player that has already been taken, notify them in a PM and they will have to repick either right away while the draft continues, or make them repick AFTER the draft as punishment. I promise that they will only make that mistake once if they do it and have to forfiet their pick till the days drafting is done.....not to mention, it is only going to get harder to keep track of who is left and it is the responsibilty of the TEAM OWNERS to keep track, not the leagues.


I think things are going great, other than GREENBLITZ continuing to take players I want (does he even know who Trent Cole is, or was he just the only guy left with double digit sacks?).......

I am enjoying the draft, the strategy and the banter........



Let me know if I can help in any way.

[BrotherChazz]

I just sent out an e-mail and it touched on several of your concerns...check it out.

1 - Time slots - what happened yuesterday was a mistake, and Beast admitted it and apologized...drafting rounds will take place like the first day with one minor minor tweak.

2 - Trading during the draft is a luxury. Your idea would be hard to implent due to the rest of the draft taking place. 5 minutes may seem like a lot of time while you are waiting around for your pick, but when you're running the draft, it seems like seconds by the time everything gets updated.

3 - Draft tracking will remain as it is. Crap...fogot to mention it in the e-mail....I guess you'll be getting 2 e-mails...but finding players who have already been picked is as easy as opening the thread that Beast created, hitting crtl + f and searching for a player you want to pick. It's that simple.

As for GreenBlitz - I'm more upset with whoever took Joe thomas like 2 picks before me in the second round...LOL

[billsfan1516]

I just sent out an e-mail and it touched on several of your concerns...check it out.

1 - Time slots - what happened yuesterday was a mistake, and Beast admitted it and apologized...drafting rounds will take place like the first day with one minor minor tweak.

2 - Trading during the draft is a luxury. Your idea would be hard to implent due to the rest of the draft taking place. 5 minutes may seem like a lot of time while you are waiting around for your pick, but when you're running the draft, it seems like seconds by the time everything gets updated.

3 - Draft tracking will remain as it is. Crap...fogot to mention it in the e-mail....I guess you'll be getting 2 e-mails...but finding players who have already been picked is as easy as opening the thread that Beast created, hitting crtl + f and searching for a player you want to pick. It's that simple.

As for GreenBlitz - I'm more upset with whoever took Joe thomas like 2 picks before me in the second round...LOL

Haha...yes, but you did get Peters.

[directFX]

As for GreenBlitz - I'm more upset with whoever took Joe thomas like 2 picks before me in the second round...LOL



TOUCHE!!!!!!!



(it was me)

[BrotherChazz]

TOUCHE!!!!!!!



(it was me)

Ouch..was it really??...I was too lazy to look and see who it was! I'm happy with Peters...but I would have liked Joe.

[directFX]

2 - Trading during the draft is a luxury. Your idea would be hard to implent due to the rest of the draft taking place. 5 minutes may seem like a lot of time while you are waiting around for your pick, but when you're running the draft, it seems like seconds by the time everything gets updated.





I agree trading is a luxary....

But it would work as long as the teams in agreement have their trade worked out already, which they should.

So when 9:05 hits, it would be an immediate post from me about who I want to trade my pick to.

Next post is the other team accepting and who they are taking with that pick

Next post would be an approval.

Done.



If it is denied for some reason, which if it is a "trade at your own risk" senario it should not get denied, I would now be on the clock to pick.....if I dont get my pick in by 9:10.....the next guy is up and I get my pick in ASAP.



I probably wont be doing any trading at this point, so I dont particularly care about it....but just trying to help.

Just tell me to "shut up" and I will.....lol

[BrotherChazz]

I agree trading is a luxary....

But it would work as long as the teams in agreement have their trade worked out already, which they should.

So when 9:05 hits, it would be an immediate post from me about who I want to trade my pick to.

Next post is the other team accepting and who they are taking with that pick

Next post would be an approval.

Done.



If it is denied for some reason, which if it is a "trade at your own risk" senario it should not get denied, I would now be on the clock to pick.....if I dont get my pick in by 9:10.....the next guy is up and I get my pick in ASAP.



I probably wont be doing any trading at this point, so I dont particularly care about it....but just trying to help.

Just tell me to "shut up" and I will.....lol

This is one aspect where a transaction secretary is needed. Most of these guys are new to this sort of league. Based on some of the rediculous trades that we've already seen...some of these guys are going to really regret their trades when we get down to the rookie draft and later in the FA draft. A TS would help keep things fair and look out for the league's best interest.

[directFX]

Ouch..was it really??...I was too lazy to look and see who it was! I'm happy with Peters...but I would have liked Joe.



Too bad trading is suspended, or you could make me a SWEET OFFER for Big Joe! lol


.....and Greenblitz took Palmer and Trent Cole from me!!!! I thought for sure Cole would have lasted to today.....my GM and I talked in depth about whether or not Urlacher would last, we both agreed he probably would not have and Cole woud.....now I am kicking myself.

[BeastOfTheEast]

Chazz,

I am still willing to keep the draft tracker updated at the end of every night if you need me to.

[BrotherChazz]

Chazz,

I am still willing to keep the draft tracker updated at the end of every night if you need me to.

That would be great since you and I are the only ones who can edit it. Thanks Beast.

[BeastOfTheEast]

I agree trading is a luxary....

But it would work as long as the teams in agreement have their trade worked out already, which they should.

So when 9:05 hits, it would be an immediate post from me about who I want to trade my pick to.

Next post is the other team accepting and who they are taking with that pick

Next post would be an approval.

Done.



If it is denied for some reason, which if it is a "trade at your own risk" senario it should not get denied, I would now be on the clock to pick.....if I dont get my pick in by 9:10.....the next guy is up and I get my pick in ASAP.



I probably wont be doing any trading at this point, so I dont particularly care about it....but just trying to help.

Just tell me to "shut up" and I will.....lol

Chazz,

If trading is still allowed, FX has a good idea. I think it is doable if maybe another person or two who are responsible could approve trades.

[directFX]

Chazz,

If trading is still allowed, FX has a good idea. I think it is doable if maybe another person or two who are responsible could approve trades.



And I would add....if there is disagreement on the trade it is grounds for automatic denial of the trade.


9:05 - I trade my 5th pick to Beast for his 6th and 7th round picks.


---Next post from Beast --

No, that is not right. It was for my 7th and 8th picks.


---Next post from Admin --

Trade denied. Grudge is still on the clock.


Now I am down to about 1 minute left so the trade probably wont happen at all.....

Typos and such are a concern.....but if you are trading, make sure the wording is absolutely correct or it wont happen.

[BeastOfTheEast]

And I would add....if there is disagreement on the trade it is grounds for automatic denial of the trade.


9:05 - I trade my 5th pick to Beast for his 6th and 7th round picks.


---Next post from Beast --

No, that is not right. It was for my 7th and 8th picks.


---Next post from Admin --

Trade denied. Grudge is still on the clock.


Now I am down to about 1 minute left so the trade probably wont happen at all.....

Typos and such are a concern.....but if you are trading, make sure the wording is absolutely correct or it wont happen.

No...I wasn't talking during the draft. That's impossible. But before the 4pm deadline.

[Skeletor]

No...I wasn't talking during the draft. That's impossible. But before the 4pm deadline.

The only way to make trading feasible during the draft is to lengthen the times to draft to 10 minutes....NO WAY!

The 4PM deadline is a good idea, but I still vote to just cut it off completely until the draft is over.

FX: Good call on your end too, and I'll be interested to see how this end up working out....

[BillsVa]

I don't think teams need to or even should worry about trading in the FA draft anyway. I look at it as team captains divying up all the existing players.

Trading during the collegiate draft would be different... because those will happen each year and different teams will have different needs...

But as for the FA draft, it's a one time deal and we're looking to have equal and fair distribution of players. I see no needs for trades until after it is over.

[Bills4superbowl]

I would be happy to do that its just i wont be there at draft times though...

[Trubillsfan]

Well me and shudz agreed to a deal after the 4pm deadline yesterday. We just decided that i would tell him the player i wanted and we could get the deal officially done this morning. Little did we know that trading would be stopped completely. Now hes stuck with my player and i have his picks.

What to do in that in that situation? Can that deal go through?

[BuffCity916]

I don't think teams need to or even should worry about trading in the FA draft anyway. I look at it as team captains divying up all the existing players.

Trading during the collegiate draft would be different... because those will happen each year and different teams will have different needs...

But as for the FA draft, it's a one time deal and we're looking to have equal and fair distribution of players. I see no needs for trades until after it is over.

110% agree :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Skeletor]

110% agree :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I third that motion, once again.

[larrymiller]

So there is no more confusion, this is a trade that was made before the no trade situation arised.

Here are the terms.

Truville received Monkeys first round pick

Monkeys received Truville's second round pick, 10th round pick, 5th round rookie pick, and 2009 first round rookie pick.

[Trubillsfan]

So there is no more confusion, this is a trade that was made before the no trade situation arised.

Here are the terms.

Truville received Monkeys first round pick

Monkeys received Truville's second round pick, 10th round pick, 5th round rookie pick, and 2009 first round rookie pick.

That is correct.

[skudz]

I also made a trade with Truville.

[Trubillsfan]

I also made a trade with Truville.

That is incorrect.

[billsfan1516]

Me and truville also have an unknown trade...He gives me the rest of his picks...and I give him $5.

[BrotherChazz]

Me and truville also have an unknown trade...He gives me the rest of his picks...and I give him $5.


That is against league rules...please see the constitution.

However, I did trade for all of his picks in rounds 20-30. I gave him all of my picks from 31-41.

It was a great deal for both of us.

[Sniper Kn9]

Chazz i can handle doing trades. I have been on here all the time and have made my last 27 picks well before my time.

Think about it.