I think Brandon isn't doing well

[OS Football]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

[norcalibillsfan]

blah blah blah whine whine whine

[davejr51179]

Good thing your no in the front office. Sweed and Kelly would not fit well with the Bills.

[Jackington]

we dont need Red Zone help?

[RoCkPiLe23]

Hmmm the one who shattered records in school and will create disgusting mismatches isn't that great. Hmm clearly the glass is half empty...

[N.Y.C.♥Bills♥]

Please.....a fire WILL be lit under his butt or he won't be playing much....i love the pick.....he can be our Moss....

[Ohiobillsguy]

Typical OS post..I swear, if you won the lottery you'd find something to complain about then too! We are doing awesome!

[bagman39]

This isn't Russ Brandon as much as it is Tom Modrack. With this WR class there was no one or two WRs (like there were last year with RB) who are clearly above everyone else. I think we picked the highest rated WR on our board who was still available and I think it's a good pick. Also they could have been afraid of the injury concerns to both Sweed and Kelly.

[OS Football]

I love how you guys just lap up what crap the front office dishes out and asks for more :-)

Sweed would have been better and a great red zone threat. Kelly the same.

[GoldBillsFan1212]

Hmmm the one who shattered records in school and will create disgusting mismatches isn't that great. Hmm clearly the glass is half empty...

clearly haha

[sechristbmw]

Get off the boards with your negativity dude. 36 TDs in college for Hardy, 6'5" and runs a 4.47. 21 TDs for Kelly and 4.75 40. Sweed hurt all year, 20 TDs in 4 years, best year was 800 yards, 4.51 40 speed.

Plus Hardy has no injury history.

Outside of Thomas, we just got the best WR in the draft.

[bufbills79]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their asses just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

1. you are a oklahoma fan

2.Hardy in the clips shown, proved that he will fight for the ball, and will lay out
and is pretty tough

[psubills62]

Typical OS post..I swear, if you won the lottery you'd find something to complain about then too! We are doing awesome!

The taxes, obviously.

[BChandler81]

Looks like every NFL GM is passing on Sweed and Kelly, guys who were supposed to be gone 20 picks ago. Hmmmm? Hardy is the best red zone threat WR in the draft. Just what the doctor ordered. Nice pick.

[bobbyraul]

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job

[SweepinU]

we dont need Red Zone help?Really,makes all the sense in the world-filling the holes
think he is doing a good job so far,what the heck

[Billsfaninwtn]

I love how you guys just lap up what crap the front office dishes out and asks for more :-)

Sweed would have been better and a great red zone threat. Kelly the same.

Yeah taken that sweed has health problems and kelley ran a 4.7 and is a cry baby. Welcome to buffalo james hardy!

[OS Football]

Hmmm the one who shattered records in school and will create disgusting mismatches isn't that great. Hmm clearly the glass is half empty...

How hard is it to break records at Indiana? also I find it funny how you ignore the character issues and the failure to consistantly fight for the ball.

[metafour]

Sweed Was Never In Discussion. I Guarantee You This And Have Been Saying It For A Long Time Now. He Is A Vertical Deep Threat.

[Usernamebills]

I liked sweed. But im happy. A 6-6 fast wr. Good in the endzone....i cant complain...maybe they knew something we didnt about sweed. Or maybe they were not head of heels.

[Squirmin'Thurman]

36 Touchdowns in the Big Ten? Amazing. 6 foot 5 running a 4.48 40 is amazing too. I wanted Sweed, but Hardy is a great fit and should DEFINATLEY boost our red zone offense.

[OS Football]

Yeah taken that sweed has health problems and kelley ran a 4.7 and is a cry baby. Welcome to buffalo james hardy!

Hey you still have some front office on your chin...

[ImpressingAGENT]

i like hardys movement and speed better then sweed.

[MacAddict104]

So then why has Sweed dropped so far?

[CPTBobby2]

I still want one more WR.

Adrian Arrington in the later rounds

[*Beast_Mode*]

Hardy = BEAST

[bobbyraul]

I liked sweed. But im happy. A 6-6 fast wr. Good in the endzone....i cant complain...maybe they knew something we didnt about sweed. Or maybe they were not head of heels.

or maybe they are wrong again

[MarshawnLynch#23]

I have mixed feelings, could this be another class of WR's like 1996?

[bobbyraul]

Hardy = BEAST

yes ..if you dont agree..ask his girlfriend or her kid

[your climax]

the Bills scouts have put their time into this and had their choice between three of tallest wr, so I take the Bills scouting department on this then your intelligent opinon done though reading blogs and youtube videos.

[choccity2005]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their asses just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.


Guy have you watched the bills the last few years...We CAN"T SCORE TDS,did you see the mia,clevland,philly game....we couldn't score TDs.....WE NEEd A RED ZONE THREAT.


This guy catches fades like he brushes his teeth.His size and strength on one side and his speed..4.45 40,i woul dof loved kelly and sweed too but they all had thier faults.

Kelly his speed

Sweed his explosiveness,wrist injury and speed

Hardy his character flaws and his attitude at times.But jauron sees something so ther eyou go.

[Ohiobillsguy]

The taxes, obviously.

LMAO! Exactly!

[*Beast_Mode*]

yes ..if you dont agree..ask his girlfriend or her kid

DUDE WOW... you never say anything positive on this board... i wish you'd just leave

[bobbyraul]

the Bills scouts have put their time into this and had their choice between three of tallest wr, so I take the Bills scouting department on this then your intelligent opinon done though reading blogs and youtube videos.

why..we havent been successful forever..so whatever they are watching they have been screwing up

[BillsFan]

I will admit I would have rather seen buffalo take Sweed. However, I think Hardy was one of the top 3 WRs in this class....

Funny where has Jackson been in all this? The guy was supposedly the top rated Wr by some... Still nowhere to be seen...HMMMM.

[bobbyraul]

DUDE WOW... you never say anything positive on this board... i wish you'd just leave

dude..you think character doesnt matter?..

[EABills0320]

Not that Indiana is the Arctic, but I wonder if Sweed's Texas pedigree made a difference. Our southern players, foremost Edwards, looked awful in the Giants and Browns games.

[JoeSelkirk]

when will you guys listen to Chris Brown and realize that Modrak and Jauron are running the picks, and Brandon is just a marketing figure head. He's stated that VERY CLEARLY.

This is not a character pick, so i'm a little upset, but when it was between Hardy, Sweed and Kelly, there is no character pick there and we needed a big WR. Hardy manned up the most saying how he had a rough childhood. Bah... I guess.

[bolfrey]

I wanted Sweed first but Hardy was my second choice. One thing to consider, Donnie Avery, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Royal were all picked. Those three were consistently ranked well below Sweed and Kelly. Could there be something that fans wouldn't know about that is making one or both of them fall?

[Lirdoco]

dude..you think character doesnt matter?..

Do you like the McKelvin pick or you think is too small, I mean you always found a way to bash something

[THE GURU]

I trust our front office looked at the options and they felt he was the best and thats good enough for me woooo

[Ohiobillsguy]

I still want one more WR.

Adrian Arrington in the later rounds
Yes! Or Marcus Monk!

[Psaunders]

i am not liking this draft we should have traded down taken devin thomas then taken brandon flowers for our corner.

[BEASTMODE_23]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their asses just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

his wrist is at 75% still, kellys knees are shot and his chrachter is shady

[WildBill73]

I love how you guys just lap up what crap the front office dishes out and asks for more :-)

Sweed would have been better and a great red zone threat. Kelly the same.

What in the world are you talkin about?? Has it been your job for the last several months to watch hours of film on these guys and conduct personal interviews?? YOU don't have a clue who would be better for this team.. Your football IQ isn't jack **** compared to the person/persons who made this pick so I really don't know why you even open your mouth!!

[Squirmin'Thurman]

If fighting for the ball is such a huge problem, how did he have 36 touchdowns?

[TheCat23]

Your post are so well thought out OS. I wish you were in the Front Office of the Pats.

[bolfrey]

DUDE WOW... you never say anything positive on this board... i wish you'd just leave

He never will, it's a cry for attention. No matter what Buffalo did today, Bobbyraul would have posted 100 percent negative messages.

[BonafideBillsBoy]

Typical OS post..I swear, if you won the lottery you'd find something to complain about then too! We are doing awesome!

Thank u for telling him off for all of us, this draft is going great just like last years. Last year Lynch, Poz, TE, and now if we can capitilize on a Fred Davis or Bennett no matter who we pick l8ter this draft is already a freaking great draft.

[cmach1987]

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job

And yet another negative post by somebody who does nothing but post negative posts.

[bobbyraul]

Do you like the McKelvin pick or you think is too small, I mean you always found a way to bash something

looks like a great athlete to me..im not sure he helps this year..but he is good value..i would have traded out of it..but he is not a reach..cover two corners i think can be had later..we had two ideal ones in winfield and nate..but i dont find fault with it..

[bobbyraul]

He never will, it's a cry for attention. No matter what Buffalo did today, Bobbyraul would have posted 100 percent negative messages.

lol cry for attention..i guess questioning a mans character who slapped around his girl and a kid isnt a fair thing to question

[cmach1987]

or maybe they are wrong again

Like they were wrong on Marshawn Lynch? Donte Whitner? Ko Simpson when healthy? Seriously go draft for the Pats, since you have great knowledge of the game.

[ibleedblue]

it's a great pick and a better receiver than kelly or sweed...i think the front office is doing a great job...now we need a tight end

[cmach1987]

lol cry for attention..i guess questioning a mans character who slapped around his girl and a kid isnt a fair thing to question

Or maybe he made a mistake that won't happen again?

[jellydonut25]

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job
I'm not sure this post should even be dignified with a response, but, I'll go for it...

Marcus Stroud will free up Aaron Schobel, a la Pat Williams...our pass rush will be fine

we're addressing our needs, I'm not 100% sold on Hardy myself, but, I was wrong about Whitner and I'll let the players speak for themselves, our drafts lately have been good and I'm excited by the idea that our front office is doing what is necessary to take care of our pressing NEEDS

though the more I think about it...the more I like Hardy as opposed to the clearly more fragile sweed or kelly

[trm_btb]

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job

**** Bobby- shut up. (ok here comes my infraction). We addressed two of our biggest needs,CB and WR very effectively. The pass rush should (WILL) improve with Poz back calling plays and, by default, with Stroud commanding more respect in the middle. Are you not paying attention?

[BillsForevers]

Wow has FO stloe your lunch or somthing... maybe slept with your sister? get over it they know what they are doing!!

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job

[BillsForevers]

Question all you want but, you dont run OBD and thank god because you are shortsighted... its still the first day of the draft and you have condemned the draft picks to being busts!!!


lol cry for attention..i guess questioning a mans character who slapped around his girl and a kid isnt a fair thing to question

[TorontoBills2010]

Good thing your no in the front office. Sweed and Kelly would not fit well with the Bills.

Because Sweed and Kelly are playmakers and Buffalo can't stand someone who makes plays

[bolfrey]

lol cry for attention..i guess questioning a mans character who slapped around his girl and a kid isnt a fair thing to question

OK, you don't seem to be happy with McKelvin or Hardy. What would you have done with Buffalo's picks if you had the choice today?

[Amendment]

lol cry for attention..i guess questioning a mans character who slapped around his girl and a kid isnt a fair thing to question

It's called "Keepin' a strong pimp hand". How do you know his girl wasn't mouthing off to him because he forgot to take out the garbage or nagging him because he left a pair of socks on the living room floor and he finally got tired of her b*tching and moaning and gave her the pimp hand..

[jellydonut25]

Because Sweed and Kelly are playmakers and Buffalo can't stand someone who makes plays

hey, with the way things are goin for those two, we might be able to get one in the 3rd round

[HargroveFan]

If Sweed or Kelly were so much better than Hardy then those 2 would of been taken as either the first or second WR not the guy from houston or the guy from VT... I called this pick and I am very pumped up for James Hardy..

[cherrybone]

os is right

brandon is in over his head

we still havent addressed a pass rush..we dont have one...lets take a small school corner and a wr that cant separate and is a thug

nice job

Hey bobbyraul, I knew you were somewhere around waiting to spread your negativity. And before you use the word thug please try to understand exactly what you are saying. The Bills, picked a wr, not a thug. This isn't a draft for a gang fight. If they are not worried about blown out of porportion character issues then why are you?

[cherrybone]

OK, you don't seem to be happy with McKelvin or Hardy. What would you have done with Buffalo's picks if you had the choice today?

He would have traded all of the picks and Trent Edwards, for a pick next season so that Losman, can start this season. Did you forget that he's a Losman, lover?

[TorontoBills2010]

36 Touchdowns in the Big Ten? Amazing. 6 foot 5 running a 4.48 40 is amazing too. I wanted Sweed, but Hardy is a great fit and should DEFINATLEY boost our red zone offense.

the problem is that he does NOTHING to get us to the Red zone.

[jellydonut25]

the problem is that he does NOTHING to get us to the Red zone.

which we didnt have a serious problem doing last year...our production inside the 30 last year was embarrassingly bad, how many times did we have returns down to the other teams 20/25 yard lines only to get field goals???

[BillsForevers]

Hardy-79 rec 1125 yrds 16 tds 14 yrds per catch
Sweed-19 rec 306 yrds 3 tds 16 yrds per catch
Kelly-49 rec 821 yrds 9 tds 17 yrds per catch

looks like a play maker to me .....

if you dont like him because of his past say that dont make **** up....

i dont like his past but i trust OBD... so i will embrace our new addition...

Because Sweed and Kelly are playmakers and Buffalo can't stand someone who makes plays

[stuvian]

I couldn't disagree more. We get the #1 Cb in the draft and a productive, tall WR with speed and a record setting collegiate track record. All this with NO REACHING or TRADING UP or DOWN while virtually every other team is taking great risks with trades OBD is casually acquiring quality. At the risk of sounding homerish I'll give OBD an A- so far.

[bolfrey]

He would have traded all of the picks and Trent Edwards, for a pick next season so that Losman, can start this season. Did you forget that he's a Losman, lover?


Notice how I haven't got a response from him? Guess, he can only post negative rants.

[BuFFbEASTmODE23]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

stop your whining....we drafted James Hardy ...sorry we couldn't get who "YOU" wanted . Limas Sweed and Malcolm Kelly are the most perfect wide receivers and most healthy....they have no weaknesses!!!!(sarcastic)

[stuvian]

As a guy who wanted to go with Harvey at 11 we can't forget that we've added Mitchell and Stroud and will have a healthy Denny and Kelsay this season.

[TorontoBills2010]

Hardy-79 rec 1125 yrds 16 tds 14 yrds per catch
Sweed-19 rec 306 yrds 3 tds 16 yrds per catch
Kelly-49 rec 821 yrds 9 tds 17 yrds per catch

looks like a play maker to me .....

if you dont like him because of his past say that dont make **** up....

i dont like his past but i trust OBD... so i will embrace our new addition...

both kelly and sweed were injured last year. if you notice though Hardy had the least YPC out of the 3. and his great TD's are inflated by the fact that once OU got inside the 15 all they would do is throw it up to hardy. the dude is obviously a physical freak. but he isn't the kind of guy who will lay it out on the line to make that extra difficult recption,

[Triskit]

I love how Washington was able to get Both Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly!!!!

[lifelongBill]

both kelly and sweed were injured last year. if you notice though Hardy had the least YPC out of the 3. and his great TD's are inflated by the fact that once OU got inside the 15 all they would do is throw it up to hardy. the dude is obviously a physical freak. but he isn't the kind of guy who will lay it out on the line to make that extra difficult recption,

That is typical, when you have more receptions you are running the risk of having the average drop a little. Also first downs are only every 10yds. So if he is averaging that many receptions and 14 yds a catch with that many TD's I'll take it.

[BillsFanatBU]

Wow
So much negativity in this thread.
Bills addressed two of our biggest needs with the best CB in the eyes of many in the draft, and with a 6 and a half foot receiver. Hardy has come to terms with his past, and since the Bills never take players with character issues, I think they realize that it's in the past. I know its been said, but 36 TDs in 36 games with no injury concerns.... yea that's definitely not someone I want on my team.

[BillsCruiser]

both kelly and sweed were injured last year. if you notice though Hardy had the least YPC out of the 3. and his great TD's are inflated by the fact that once OU got inside the 15 all they would do is throw it up to hardy. the dude is obviously a physical freak. but he isn't the kind of guy who will lay it out on the line to make that extra difficult recption,

I was laughing so hard at this post, I almost wet myself; "and his great TD's are inflated by the fact that once OU got inside the 15 all they would do is throw it up to hardy."

First of all, he went to Indiana, not OU. Secondly, DUH!!!!!!!!!! Isn't that what you should do with such a tall receiver???? I'll take TD's any way I can get them. This sounds like a plus to me.

I was hoping we'd get Jordy Nelson or Limas Sweed, but I have no problem with picking Hardy.

GO BILLS!!!!

[Dylanme8]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

I'll trust you over someone that does this 365 days a year

[Griff]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

boo troll, get lost little trolly.

[billsfanpozlynch]

I think he's a GREAT pick. He likes Buffalo if you listened to the interview. He is going to be amazing help in the redzone with touchdowns. He seems like a great guy too.

[cancer42292]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

thank you. Finally, someone doesn't listen to what they are told all the time! I have been preaching in my thread for both Kelly and Sweed who are much better players. It's about time i get some backup!

[Luka_GoBills]

It doesn't matter what you two think, the pick is made, Hardy is our man. And like I said in every other one of these idiotic threads, consistency is KEY. Hardy average 1 touchdown per GAME over his ENTIRE CAREER. He averages a little over 14 yards PER CATCH over his ENTIRE CAREER. Go watch the Steelers and Redskins if you have such strong man love for Kelly an Sweed.

[Griff]

thank you. Finally, someone doesn't listen to what they are told all the time! I have been preaching in my thread for both Kelly and Sweed who are much better players. It's about time i get some backup!

good thing nobody listens to you or we might all believe that junk. Hardy is better than Kelly in every way, and and overall better fit for us than Sweed.

[bunnerjk]

I'am really happy we stayed away from Malcolm Kelly!!!

[Battle941]

If we snagged Malcolm Kelly over Hardy, I would've been pissed. Kelly's overrated IMO and while I was leaning toward Sweed, I'm more than happy with Hardy after reading up more on him :thumbsup:

I really think Hardy is going to be a beast for us, especially in red zone situations

[King Alex]

Good thing your no in the front office. Sweed and Kelly would not fit well with the Bills.

Have to agree with you. :thumbsup:

[Armest07]

Idk how you could say these were BAD picks. We needed a CB, and we got the best. We needed a tall WR, and we got the tallest.
Remember, Hardy was the ONLY good player on Indiana's roster. He was their playmaker, teams knew this, but they still couldn't stop him. He had no help. Not a decent QB, or productive running game.
Malcolm Kelly had one of the greatest RB's at the time, with Adrian Peterson two years ago. That DEFINITELY opens up the passing game.

Limas Sweed had Vince Young! He gave defenses nightmares.

Hardy was alone, and still produced better than either of those two.

[Battle941]

Idk how you could say these were BAD picks. We needed a CB, and we got the best. We needed a tall WR, and we got the tallest.
Remember, Hardy was the ONLY good player on Indiana's roster. He was their playmaker, teams knew this, but they still couldn't stop him. He had no help. Not a decent QB, or productive running game.
Malcolm Kelly had one of the greatest RB's at the time, with Adrian Peterson two years ago. That DEFINITELY opens up the passing game.

Limas Sweed had Vince Young! He gave defenses nightmares.

Hardy was alone, and still produced better than either of those two.

^GREAT point

[Aand EOutdoors.com]

james hardy has an assult charge for abussing his girlfriend and kid! nice role model!

[royer1215]

Sorry I take Sweed or Kelly. And I dont' want to hear any of this kissing their ***es just because they are our front office. 90% here would agree Sweed for sure would be a better pick at WR.

Mike Mayock just showed, the kid won't fight for the ball, wont lay out, and has some other issues. Why we took him, I can only figure for Red Zone help mostly.

we probalby took him becuase of his 36 td's

[TorontoBills2010]

Or maybe he made a mistake that won't happen again?

He slapped around his baby and baby's momma. and then interfered with the investigating officer, and there was the incident where he got in a tift with his coach that got him suspended... this all happened not much longer than a year ago.

you hope it won't happen again. but Pacman was clean for a year before the titans drafted him.

But the fact he was willing to Beat his woman and child shows a SERIOUS character flaw, and having a hard upbringing and not knowing better isn't a excuse, I know several kids who had a really bad upbringing and it never occured to them to beat their women and children, and interfere with a police investigation.