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baskets
08-29-2008, 10:56 PM
there is a growing sentiment here especially that "executive experience" (EE) is key in a presidential election. we all know barack obama has no EE, i will be the first to admit it. his running mate joe biden also has zero EE.

but i ask, does john mccain have EE? last time i checked, mccain has been a u.s. senator for 30 some years. i don't believe holding a senate seat qualifies as EE either. so obama, biden, and mccain all have zero EE.

and then there's sarah palin. does she really have "executive experience?" after all, she was a governor. but does that give her an edge up on obama, biden, and mccain in the EE arena? here's just one reason why i say no:

state governors are not diplomats; they DO NOT have foreign policy agendas. sarah palin has about as much foreign policy experience as i do.

let's stop pretending that running a state government is a microcosm of running a country. there are huge fundamental differences between the two. sure, being a governor provides valuable leadership opportunity. palin is a leader. but who's to say obama, biden, and mccain aren't also leaders? aren't congressmen and women leaders in our country? in fact, if we divide the state population in illinois by two (for two senators) obama represents about 6.5 million people to palin's 680K. so that argument is out the window.

you know what, i'm gonna throw this out there: currently, there are only 4 people in this country with executive experience to be president: jimmy carter, george h.w. bush, bill clinton, and george w. bush. hell, if its executive experience you guys want so much, maybe the republicans should have nominated george h.w. for another go around?

otherwise, let's end this "executive experience" bullcrap and stop pretending like either nominee or their running mates has an executive experience when it comes to running a country. they're all in the same frickin boat.
shortchaz
08-29-2008, 11:05 PM
good post.

im with you on experience, ee, being not important.

im just glad to have a staunch fiscal conservative on one ticket.

its pretty cool that either a woman or a black man will be in office for our countries image.
LaudyBills
08-30-2008, 01:03 AM
How dare you start a post with a well thought out, intelligent argument.
The_Dude
08-30-2008, 01:23 AM
Dang it Basketeer youve got it all wrong. Obama is the one without EE.. McCain says so, just ask him.
remember_us
08-30-2008, 01:41 AM
Really, lets put down Sara for a quality that she as proven successfully at multiple ranks of government because your candidate does not have it. Why don't you talk up what Obama does have to offer, other than his preacher like speaches that speak to some "change" that is going to happen but nobody knows what it is.
LaudyBills
08-30-2008, 01:49 AM
Really, lets put down Sara for a quality that she as proven successfully at multiple ranks of government because your candidate does not have it. Why don't you talk up what Obama does have to offer, other than his preacher like speaches that speak to some "change" that is going to happen but nobody knows what it is.


Did you watch the convention speech? He was pretty specific. That argument might have played last week...but not today.

As for the first sentence of your response....Ill let the thread starter handle that one.
The_Dude
08-30-2008, 01:56 AM
Really, lets put down Sara for a quality that she as proven successfully at multiple ranks of government because your candidate does not have it. Why don't you talk up what Obama does have to offer, other than his preacher like speaches that speak to some "change" that is going to happen but nobody knows what it is.

Do you really want to get into this? If so just let me know.
remember_us
08-30-2008, 02:17 AM
I would like to know Obama's credentials. I heard Sara's this morning and I was impressed. I teach leadership at my company and so far she seems to have the right qualities.
baskets
08-30-2008, 10:21 AM
I would like to know Obama's credentials. I heard Sara's this morning and I was impressed. I teach leadership at my company and so far she seems to have the right qualities.

late shift manager at taco bell must give you tons of leadership and executive experience.
dennisdread
08-30-2008, 10:29 AM
Bush had no EE either...that's why he tapped Cheney to be his VP. To a man(and woman) they(everyone making the Obama has no EE argument) told us that his lack of EE didn't matter then.

But now that the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden it's a big deal.

It's a flip flop. heh heh Imagine that.
remember_us
08-30-2008, 01:17 PM
late shift manager at taco bell must give you tons of leadership and executive experience.

It is funny that you need to keep criticizing me. But I last I checked I had a graduate degree and worked for a fortune 500 company.
God Father
08-30-2008, 01:33 PM
It is funny that you need to keep criticizing me. But I last I checked I had a graduate degree and worked for a fortune 500 company.

Don't worry about the Democrat, they like to make things up and exaggerate. Ha ha Taco Bell, that comment almost makes any of his other arguments void. What else is he exaggerating here that other people know nothing about so they just believe him? Isn't that like half the Democratic populuation anyway?
baskets
08-30-2008, 02:18 PM
It is funny that you need to keep criticizing me. But I last I checked I had a graduate degree and worked for a fortune 500 company.

yeah just like everyone else on here...we're all rich and famous on a message board. somehow, i can't see someone with a graduate degree working for a fortune 500 company making the arguments you're making.