A Single Stat Will Tell You Who to Draft

[sechristbmw]

Enough because you are wrong, or enough because you don't have the data to backup your argument?

Prove to me Bell is not a good starting LT.

I am not going to annoint him as a star, but Buffalo can do much worse at LT... much worse... I doubt any rookie in this class can start ahead of him in 2011, and only think 1-2 LT in the draft even pan out 5 years from now.

If Bell does not work out at LT, he is clearly good enough for RT, or a guard position. He does not give up sacks, and is not called for many penalties.

If you think he is the cause of the running problems, then I ask how did Jackson avg 66 ypg as a starter (that is a 1000 yard season). And Spiller must have failed as a rookie because Bell could not block for him- YEAH that is the reason Spiller busted, never mind that when Spiller reads a block in year 2, it will be the first time he ever did that right.

Bell is not the problem on the OL, he may not be the total solution, but he is far from the problem.

Bell is just what Gailey said - 'ok'. On a scale of 1-10 he would be a 5.

The Bills never make the Playoffs so hard to know for sure how that guy would perform in pressure situations.

[Shaw66]

Team Yds Rushing Outcome

Miami 132 Lost
GB 91 Lost
NE 208 Lost
NY 273 Lost
Jville 216 Lost
Bmore 135 Lost
KC 274 Lost
Chicago 105 Lost
Detroit 76 WON
Cincy 132 WON
Pitt 206 Lost
Minny 210 Lost
Cleveland 105 WON
Miami 65 WON
NE 216 Lost
NYJets 276 Lost


Does it suprise you that we won 4 out of the 5 games that we gave up the least amount of rushing yards for the season? GB is an anomoly because we turned the ball over 6 times. Does it suprise you that in the EIGHT games we gave up over 200 yards rushing we lost?!! This is the easiest draft the BILLS front office has ever had - we BETTER draft defense at LEAST 3 of the first 4 picks..

I've stayed out of this discussion until now. Haven't read it all.

If you really think one statistic can dictate how the Bills should draft, you seriously underestimate the complexity of professional football.

Look at any roster, any team, and look five years later. You'll be amazed how much turn over there is. Free agency, retirements, injury, guys losing their jobs.

Five years from now, one and perhaps both of the Bills running backs will be gone. Five now, I'd guess that the Bills probably will be starting two, or perhaps three, of the five offensive linemen who are starters now. Five years from now, Lee is gone, Roscoe is gone and probably one of Stevie an Nelson are gone. Five years from now there's probably one chance in ten that Fitz is still the quarterback. It's just in the nature of the game. So the Bills are going to need to get a bunch of offensive players over the next five years, JUST TO STAY AS GOOD (!!) AS THEY ARE NOW.

Buddy and Chan know they can't afford to ignore the offense, even if you don't know it.

On the other hand, if you're looking at three starting defensive linemen, the Bills already have Williams (maybe still here), Edwards, Troup and Carrington. They already have some linebackers they expect to be playing.

You may not like how the Bills played the run last season, but spending ANY year building the defensive from seven almost to the exclusion of everything else would be a huge mistake.

[sechristbmw]

I've stayed out of this discussion until now. Haven't read it all.

If you really think one statistic can dictate how the Bills should draft, you seriously underestimate the complexity of professional football.

Look at any roster, any team, and look five years later. You'll be amazed how much turn over there is. Free agency, retirements, injury, guys losing their jobs.

Five years from now, one and perhaps both of the Bills running backs will be gone. Five now, I'd guess that the Bills probably will be starting two, or perhaps three, of the five offensive linemen who are starters now. Five years from now, Lee is gone, Roscoe is gone and probably one of Stevie an Nelson are gone. Five years from now there's probably one chance in ten that Fitz is still the quarterback. It's just in the nature of the game. So the Bills are going to need to get a bunch of offensive players over the next five years, JUST TO STAY AS GOOD (!!) AS THEY ARE NOW.

Buddy and Chan know they can't afford to ignore the offense, even if you don't know it.

On the other hand, if you're looking at three starting defensive linemen, the Bills already have Williams (maybe still here), Edwards, Troup and Carrington. They already have some linebackers they expect to be playing.

You may not like how the Bills played the run last season, but spending ANY year building the defensive from seven almost to the exclusion of everything else would be a huge mistake.

I don't understand how any Bills fan can say they watch this team and come to this conclusion.

The Bills have been getting RUN OVER in the run game since Pat Williams left.

2005 - 137.8 (31)
2006 - 140.9 (28)
2007 - 124.6 (25)
2008 - 121.6 (22)
2009 - 156.3 (30)
2010 - 169.6 (32)

Average Yards: 141.8
Average Rank: 28th

As it is Kyle Williams can never come off the field to catch his breath.

[shaunta53]

I don't understand how any Bills fan can say they watch this team and come to this conclusion.

The Bills have been getting RUN OVER in the run game since Pat Williams left.

2005 - 137.8 (31)
2006 - 140.9 (28)
2007 - 124.6 (25)
2008 - 121.6 (22)
2009 - 156.3 (30)
2010 - 169.6 (32)

Average Yards: 141.8
Average Rank: 28th

As it is Kyle Williams can never come off the field to catch his breath.

They also haven't won a playoff game since 1995 which was the year before Kelly retired...

[sechristbmw]

They also haven't won a playoff game since 1995 which was the year before Kelly retired...

Yeah I know.

[jIM_Ohio]

I don't understand how any Bills fan can say they watch this team and come to this conclusion.

The Bills have been getting RUN OVER in the run game since Pat Williams left.

2005 - 137.8 (31)
2006 - 140.9 (28)
2007 - 124.6 (25)
2008 - 121.6 (22)
2009 - 156.3 (30)
2010 - 169.6 (32)

Average Yards: 141.8
Average Rank: 28th

As it is Kyle Williams can never come off the field to catch his breath.

But as Shaw pointed out you are using one stat to come to a specific decision. The offense ranks in those 6 seasons aren't exactly staggering, and the forced turnovers in same stretch is bad.

[mikey152]

One point is - I don't care how many linebackers we were missing last year. Fact is Andra Davis and Reggie Torbor weren't going to get the run defense any better than #30 even if they were in there the whole year. They are slow guys who got cut with the Broncos and Dolphins respectfully.

Dwan Edwards is 30 years old, coming off IR this year. He played 'ok' before he was injured, nothing above average. If he was so good the Ravens would have resigned him. Spencer Johnson is a marginal NFL player who has been in the league for years. A deep reserve guy.

Marcus Stroud was a former high first round pick, he sucked last season, what is your point on bringing up draft position?

The overall point is our D-Line is marginal, our linebackers are poor Mikey. I don't see how you can see it any other way. Last against the run, 27 sacks on the year. How can you conclude the D-Line is not a problem? Buddy has stated and shown that FA is not the primary way the Bills will be built so what, we draft two rookies on the D-Line and we are done?

Just because you throw some resources at it, doesn't mean its fixed, our FAs last season were very average and our rookie DL didn't play....

Our Dline is not marginal when it has an all-pro on it...Ne's Dline was Wilfork and a bunch of undrafted guys this year...did they suck?And why do you keep bringing up linebackers? I never said anything but the fact that they suck. In fact, that is the whole point. The LBs and secondary are in much worse shape than the line.

[Labatt1960]

I've stayed out of this discussion until now. Haven't read it all.

If you really think one statistic can dictate how the Bills should draft, you seriously underestimate the complexity of professional football.

Look at any roster, any team, and look five years later. You'll be amazed how much turn over there is. Free agency, retirements, injury, guys losing their jobs.

Five years from now, one and perhaps both of the Bills running backs will be gone. Five now, I'd guess that the Bills probably will be starting two, or perhaps three, of the five offensive linemen who are starters now. Five years from now, Lee is gone, Roscoe is gone and probably one of Stevie an Nelson are gone. Five years from now there's probably one chance in ten that Fitz is still the quarterback. It's just in the nature of the game. So the Bills are going to need to get a bunch of offensive players over the next five years, JUST TO STAY AS GOOD (!!) AS THEY ARE NOW.

Buddy and Chan know they can't afford to ignore the offense, even if you don't know it.

On the other hand, if you're looking at three starting defensive linemen, the Bills already have Williams (maybe still here), Edwards, Troup and Carrington. They already have some linebackers they expect to be playing.

You may not like how the Bills played the run last season, but spending ANY year building the defensive from seven almost to the exclusion of everything else would be a huge mistake.

Perfectly said.