cam or no QB at all....

[BornBillfan]

We want to replace Fitz who in 13 games threw 23 tds and a nice chunk of yards with Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert threw for ONLY 16 tds all season in a spread offense. Correct me if I am wrong but the spread offense is suppose to inflate the numbers. Imagine him with our weakvoffense with our below avg wr core. Also, Gabbert's numbers dropped in '10 from his 09 season. He also finished the season on a losing streak throwing 1 td and 4 int's. (Roughly).... on a final note, every scouting report claims he has poor pocket awareness.... what QB is unaware of his pocket. I took a moment and looked up the all the top QBs in the NFL and none mention poor awareness. On a hunch, i looked up JP LOSMAN AND TRENT EDWARDS ALL mention some sort of pocket awareness deficiency. ...

If we do take a QB let it be Cam.

[jeffadler]

Agree completely.

I am not enthused with the possibility of another quarterback who has a ton of excuses surrounding his college play.

[rjmarkin]

Gabbert threw for 16 not 13.. And he ran for 4 so 20 total... Also since you seem more interested in stats then anything... How about this stat... Zero qbs that have come from an option run offense has ever succeeded in the NFL.. Guess what offense Cam comes from?

[UBBALLER8]

There used to be a time where no good QBs came from just plain old spread offenses either.

Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it won't happen ever.

Getting QBs from pro offenses hasn't worked out so great these past few years either. Brian Brohm, Brady Quinn, and Jimmy Clausen all blow. Best to take the guy with some talents than someone because of their system.

[BillsFan]

Gabbert threw for 16 not 13.. And he ran for 4 so 20 total... Also since you seem more interested in stats then anything... How about this stat... Zero qbs that have come from an option run offense has ever succeeded in the NFL.. Guess what offense Cam comes from?

I could be wrong but wasn't Vick from an option run offense?

Furthermore, how many of those QBs from that offense broke the D-1 NCAA record in passer rating? Seems like people forget Newton tossed 30 TDs this past season with mediocre talent around him.

[BeastOfTheEast]

We want to replace Fitz who in 13 games threw 23 tds and a nice chunk of yards with Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert threw for ONLY 13 tds all season in a spread offense. Correct me if I am wrong but the spread offense is suppose to inflate the numbers. Imagine him with our weakvoffense with our below avg wr core. Also, Gabbert's numbers dropped in '10 from his 09 season. He also finished the season on a losing streak throwing 1 td and 4 int's. (Roughly).... on a final note, every scouting report claims he has poor pocket awareness.... what QB is unaware of his pocket. I took a moment and looked up the all the top QBs in the NFL and none mention poor awareness. On a hunch, i looked up JP LOSMAN AND TRENT EDWARDS ALL mention some sort of pocket awareness deficiency. ...

If we do take a QB let it be Cam.

Well, I guess if this is all true, Gabbert should go no earlier than the 4th or 5th round.

That is, unless he really is a good QB and you don't know what you are talking about.

I wonder which one will happen?

[Klaista2k]

Something tells me that Locker and Mallet are the two QB's that should be going 1 and 2.

Not Netwon and Gabbert.

[lilfaith24]

[QUOTE=rjmarkin;4968470]Gabbert threw for 16 not 13.. And he ran for 4 so 20 total... Also since you seem more interested in stats then anything... How about this stat... Zero qbs that have come from an option run offense has ever succeeded in the NFL.. Guess what offense Cam comes from?[/QUOTE

Vick and McNabb both came from option offenses that focosed on the QB being able to run the ball

[lilfaith24]

Something tells me that Locker and Mallet are the two QB's that should be going 1 and 2.

Not Netwon and Gabbert.

Mallet maybe, but Locker is not a good QB at all. and will be the 5th or 6th best QB in this draft

[Buffalo90]

We want to replace Fitz who in 13 games threw 23 tds and a nice chunk of yards with Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert threw for ONLY 13 tds all season in a spread offense. Correct me if I am wrong but the spread offense is suppose to inflate the numbers. Imagine him with our weakvoffense with our below avg wr core. Also, Gabbert's numbers dropped in '10 from his 09 season. He also finished the season on a losing streak throwing 1 td and 4 int's. (Roughly).... on a final note, every scouting report claims he has poor pocket awareness.... what QB is unaware of his pocket. I took a moment and looked up the all the top QBs in the NFL and none mention poor awareness. On a hunch, i looked up JP LOSMAN AND TRENT EDWARDS ALL mention some sort of pocket awareness deficiency. ...

If we do take a QB let it be Cam.

What?

Blaine threw for 16 TDs not 13, Also i love all you guys who say the spread is suppose to inflate the QBs numbers, well if this logic is true then in the spread option it should inflate them much more so basicaly what im saying is that all Cams numbers are inflated.

[Buffalo90]

Gabbert threw for 16 not 13.. And he ran for 4 so 20 total... Also since you seem more interested in stats then anything... How about this stat... Zero qbs that have come from an option run offense has ever succeeded in the NFL.. Guess what offense Cam comes from?[/QUOTE

Vick and McNabb both came from option offenses that focosed on the QB being able to run the ball

Both of those QBs ran pro styles, with a option play maybe a few times a game

[Bunnerjk]

Mallett in the 2nd!!!!!

[BornBillfan]

I edited my original post from 13 to 16 tds. My original argument stays the same but I just negated the sole argument of most Blaine fans.

[baldat28]

Did you want Tebow?

Cause Tebow tore up the SEC defenses and did so for three years not one. The biggest difference between the two, character. One has extremely great character, the other one not so much. Yet Tebow went 25 and you want Newton at 3? Makes no sense to me, unless of course you were lobbying this hard for Tebow too.

Also, I'm not against taking either QB at 3, I just get tired of hearing the same stupid arguments for this guy or that guy. Doesn't matter what you post or who you want, your not making the pick, it sounds like your trying to convince yourself.

[BornBillfan]

Did you want Tebow?

Cause Tebow tore up the SEC defenses and did so for three years not one. The biggest difference between the two, character. One has extremely great character, the other one not so much. Yet Tebow went 25 and you want Newton at 3? Makes no sense to me, unless of course you were lobbying this hard for Tebow too.

Also, I'm not against taking either QB at 3, I just get tired of hearing the same stupid arguments for this guy or that guy. Doesn't matter what you post or who you want, your not making the pick, it sounds like your trying to convince yourself.

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I thought I mentioned "if we do draft a QB"

[baldat28]

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I thought I mentioned "if we do draft a QB"

Doesn't matter, I just get tired of seeing this everyday, people want to make it like they are the best draft gurus, nothing personal. I can't imagine what it'll be like on here if the Bills take one of the two QB's.

Question, what'll you do if they take Gabbert? I always like to ask this to people who like one QB and not the other.

[BornBillfan]

Doesn't matter, I just get tired of seeing this everyday, people want to make it like they are the best draft gurus, nothing personal. I can't imagine what it'll be like on here if the Bills take one of the two QB's.

Question, what'll you do if they take Gabbert? I always like to ask this to people who like one QB and not the other.

suck it up.. i guess..... i have done it for years

[te2lee46]

Doesn't matter, I just get tired of seeing this everyday, people want to make it like they are the best draft gurus, nothing personal. I can't imagine what it'll be like on here if the Bills take one of the two QB's.

Question, what'll you do if they take Gabbert? I always like to ask this to people who like one QB and not the other.

Then don't check in everyday?
I donno bro it's the off-season their might not be football next year and were here to talk about the Bills. Correct me if I'm wrong but we don't have much else to talk about.
So...how was your day? What did you have for lunch?
Miller's the pick, bring in Thigpen!

[stuvian]

I would gladly take Mallett if someone trades above us for Newton but otherwise I think Newton falls to us at 3 and we pull the trigger.

[Tates]

Did you want Tebow?

Cause Tebow tore up the SEC defenses and did so for three years not one. The biggest difference between the two, character. One has extremely great character, the other one not so much. Yet Tebow went 25 and you want Newton at 3? Makes no sense to me, unless of course you were lobbying this hard for Tebow too.

Also, I'm not against taking either QB at 3, I just get tired of hearing the same stupid arguments for this guy or that guy. Doesn't matter what you post or who you want, your not making the pick, it sounds like your trying to convince yourself.

Newton is a far better passer than Tebow - Tim's mechanics were terrible and he had to totally change his delivery - Newton has a stronger arm and is more accurate - I don't want him at three, but he should be rated higher than 25.