How is Kyle Williams used if...

[beeve17]

We draft Marcell Dareus? He would obviously be the NT. It would be hard not to have him slotted as that.

Does that mean we move over our beloved Kyle Williams to DE alongside Edwards/Carrington?

[LEBills]

We draft Marcell Dareus? He would obviously be the NT. It would be hard not to have him slotted as that.

Does that mean we move over our beloved Kyle Williams to DE alongside Edwards/Carrington?

Dareus could play all slots but most likely hed be predominately our LDE

So williams would prob stay at NT

[akcash]

Dareus could play nt, but he wouldn't obviously play it. i think dareus would play 5 tech like ngata does for the ravens. and williams would still be the starting nose (to start). troup could eventually earn that roll, and then maybe williams goes out to the other end and edwards loses some snaps.

but basically, it seems to me that dareus and williams could play either pos in the 3-4. But my guess would be williams would stay inside to start and dareus would play 5tech.

[beeve17]

even though dareus is bigger? IMO he'd be the better NT against the run as well.

Kyle williams would be a better end in the 3-4 but idk.

[Canuck]

Dareus has a lot more length than Williams. He would play 5 tech and Williams would play nose. It's not all about size.

[President Obama]

even though dareus is bigger? IMO he'd be the better NT against the run as well.

Kyle williams would be a better end in the 3-4 but idk.

In madden, yes but size is not everything. Plus the coaches have said countless time that Kyle will play nt. I don't think it matters were you put them as long as they can hold at the point of attack.

[BillsMafia]

Dareus could play nt, but he wouldn't obviously play it. i think dareus would play 5 tech like ngata does for the ravens. and williams would still be the starting nose (to start). troup could eventually earn that roll, and then maybe williams goes out to the other end and edwards loses some snaps.

but basically, it seems to me that dareus and williams could play either pos in the 3-4. But my guess would be williams would stay inside to start and dareus would play 5tech.

I think that should be our lineup providing Troup can hold his own....Dareus Troup Williams....Kyle is an explosive guy him on the end I think would be awsome...Troup to sure up two blockers and Dareus to shoot would be a pretty darn good line if all goes right...

[Logic]

In my view, Dareus is a 5-technique in the NFL if he winds up on a 3-4 team. He was at his most effective for Alabama when playing DE, not DT. As someone else mentioned, he would play a "Ngata" type role, where they move home around. But his MAIN position would be DE.

In the 3-4, on run downs:

DE - Edwards/Carrington
DT - Troup
DE - Dareus

In the 3-4, on pass downs:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DE - Dareus


Troup could also occasionally play DE and Dareus could ocasionally play DT. As for 4-3 and dime formations:

In 4-man line formations on RUN downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Dareus
DT - Troup
DE - Edwards

In 4-man line formations on PASS downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DT - Dareus
DE - Moats

[Canuck]

In my view, Dareus is a 5-technique in the NFL if he winds up on a 3-4 team. He was at his most effective for Alabama when playing DE, not DT. As someone else mentioned, he would play a "Ngata" type role, where they move home around. But his MAIN position would be DE.

In the 3-4, on run downs:

DE - Edwards/Carrington
DT - Troup
DE - Dareus

In the 3-4, on pass downs:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DE - Dareus


Troup could also occasionally play DE and Dareus could ocasionally play DT. As for 4-3 and dime formations:

In 4-man line formations on RUN downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Dareus
DT - Troup
DE - Edwards

In 4-man line formations on PASS downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DT - Dareus
DE - Moats

This is a fail, because Kyle Williams needs to be on the field in all situations unless he is gassed. He is a dominant player and we don't have anyone close to as good as he is.

[beeve17]

This is a fail, because Kyle Williams needs to be on the field in all situations unless he is gassed. He is a dominant player and we don't have anyone close to as good as he is.

I agree. having him on the end on running downs maybe and NT on passing downs.

[gr8dane00]

Dareus could play nt, but he wouldn't obviously play it. i think dareus would play 5 tech like ngata does for the ravens. and williams would still be the starting nose (to start). troup could eventually earn that roll, and then maybe williams goes out to the other end and edwards loses some snaps.

but basically, it seems to me that dareus and williams could play either pos in the 3-4. But my guess would be williams would stay inside to start and dareus would play 5tech.

Yeah, what he said. But Im sure if Kyle WANTED to go 5 tech, Darius could go to NT.

[Logic]

In my post I only listed Kyle being off the field in run down situations. Guess what, I stand by that. Kyle is a TREMENDOUS penetrator and pass rusher from the interior, but he is NOT a force in the run game. Yes, he occasionally makes a tackle for loss. But more often than not, he's a liability in the run game. Case in point: Kyle had a HELL of a year, a PRO BOWL year, and guess what? our run defense was ranked 32nd in the league. That means that his PRO BOWL YEAR did not help us one bit in terms of run defense.

Troup, on the other hand, was drafted in the 2nd round, and is 326 lbs. His strength (according to his draft profile, at least) is supposed to be holding his ground and anchoring against the run. YOU DON'T DRAFT A PLAYER IN THE SECOND ROUND TO SIT ON THE BENCH!

I stand by what I said. Put Troup at NT on run downs and let Williams knife through the line on pass downs.

[Logic]

Mind you, I'm not advocating that Kyle should ONLY be on the field for passing downs. Obviously, you have to have a guy with his talents on the field more often than that. But I sure would like to see Troup get on the field more in run situations. Besides, with as much as NFL teams pass these days, Kyle would still be on the field quite a bit.

[beeve17]

Mind you, I'm not advocating that Kyle should ONLY be on the field for passing downs. Obviously, you have to have a guy with his talents on the field more often than that. But I sure would like to see Troup get on the field more in run situations. Besides, with as much as NFL teams pass these days, Kyle would still be on the field quite a bit.

How about him at DE on run downs?

[GreggTX]

In my view, Dareus is a 5-technique in the NFL if he winds up on a 3-4 team. He was at his most effective for Alabama when playing DE, not DT. As someone else mentioned, he would play a "Ngata" type role, where they move home around. But his MAIN position would be DE.

In the 3-4, on run downs:

DE - Edwards/Carrington
DT - Troup
DE - Dareus

In the 3-4, on pass downs:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DE - Dareus


Troup could also occasionally play DE and Dareus could ocasionally play DT. As for 4-3 and dime formations:

In 4-man line formations on RUN downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Dareus
DT - Troup
DE - Edwards

In 4-man line formations on PASS downs, I would like to see:

DE - Carrington
DT - Williams
DT - Dareus
DE - Moats

So our only probowl player sits on the bench on 1st and 2nd down and again on 3rd down if it's a short yardage situation? Don't get me wrong. I think Troup will be a solid player before his career is done and I want him on the field.

We end up sitting one of our best defensive players on the bench when we go to a 3-4 because the strength of this draft class is not at ILB, where we need the help most, but at DE, where we drafted a guy in round 3 last year. Maybe someone gets traded down the line if we take Dareus. Who knows?

[steckmeister03]

Dareus could play all slots but most likely hed be predominately our LDE

So williams would prob stay at NT

or willliams moves to RDE and Troup plays the 0 tech. the options are pretty limited