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    As many of you know, I've correctly predicted the Bills record for 3 years running. As usual, this year I will once again paste the link into my sig.

    A lot has changed in the past year. Gone are guys that I've been quite critical and vocal about -- Poz, Whitner and Evans. In the 2011 draft, Buddy Nix selected what I hope will be an outstanding player in Dareus. We've upgraded the LB core with the addition of Nick Barnett and now have a "healthy" Shawn Merriman to hopefully help bolster that group. Our corners remain suspect, with nobody striking fear into the mind of an opposing quarterback. Hopefully Byrd rebounds from the 2nd year slump and anybody is better in coverage then Whitner, so I'm pleased to see Wilson given a chance to prove he can play in this league.

    Sadly the changes stop there. On offense, out is Brohm, in is Thigpen. While an upgrade, I'd hardly consider it to be earth shattering. The RBs remain the same, Spiller still can't pass block or chip, and Jackson is among the most underrated players in the NFL. Our WR core had a little bit of a shakeup with Buffalo finally realizing that Lee Evans isn't a good route runner and only excels in deep pass patterns -- things that take time to develop. I like our young WR core but do feel as though they could struggle. They also seem to have a bit of the "drops" which I'm sure has a lot to do with lack of concentration. I feel as though the young guys are looking to make a play with the ball more so then worrying about actually catching the ball. This is often the case of young WRs and hopefully they'll figure it out. The Offensive line is still a complete disgrace. There is absolutely no depth on the unit, and quite frankly the starting 5 are laughable. I actually feel bad for Eric Wood. Any sort of injury to the group will spell disaster. There were older veterans out there, Buddy decided a temporary solution isn't a viable one and elected to completely ignore the unit. Oh, and we still do not have a tight end.

    I look back at the 2010-11 season and simply cannot forget all the games where Buffalo looked completely inept. Sure there was the game against the Ravens and Steelers, games we could have pulled off an upset, but there were more games like the Jets, Vikes, Pats (2nd time), and Packers. All these games really highlighted the weakness of our offensive line, inability to move the football, and inability to stop anybody on defense.

    After watching the preaseason, I see and hear excuses for poor play. Sorry, I don't buy that. This is just not a good football team. This team looked inconsistant in 3 out of 4 preseason games. They refused to run the football, which I think will once again be a theme. Gailey is a pass happy coach.

    I honestly believe that in 2011-12 this team will be more competitive. I don't think we will get blown out as often as we did in 2010-11. Instead of being among the worst defenses in the NFL, I see Buffalo moving up to the 20-25 range provided Merriman and Barnett are able to stay healthy. In the event of an injury or two, all bets are off though. Depth on this entire roster is a serious issue. On offense, I expect the team to be inconsistent. I think a lot of that will be because the offensive line is a disaster, Gailey abandons the run, and Fitz simply isn't a consistent quarterback.

    Looking at the schedule, there are some games that aren't winnable and some games that Buffalo should have a chance:

    Buffalo has no chance against New England (x2), Philly, SD, and I'd put the Jets (x2) in that group. *** Side note, I don't think the Jets will be world beaters, but I believe their pass rushing LBs will simply destroy us ***

    I'd give a strong edge to teams like the Cowboys, Giants and Tenn, whereas I'd give a slight edge to the Chiefs.


    I think Buffalo can compete/win against the Dolphins (x2), Raiders, Cincy, Washington and Denver.

    So, you've read this long, what's my prediction:

    Well, I believe Buffalo's offense will be in trouble. With a disastrous offensive line and lack of depth, coupled with Chan Gailey's refusal to commit to running the football, Buffalo will simply be inconsistent on offense. With past injury issues with Merriman and Barnett, I question their ability to stay healthy and know that our LB depth isn't that good. While the pass rush should improve with the addition of Dareus, I do believe that he will struggle at times in his rookie year.

    We could win as little as 3 games, or as many as 7. I say we win 5. They are better then a year ago, but still not very good. We're a couple of years away from competing for a playoff spot.

    I predict Buffalo will finish 5-11

    We're too 'good' to get Andrew Luck, and instead of drafting a QB spend the 2012-13 draft focusing on offensive line and LB depth. I'm okay with that. If Fitz shows he's not the answer, bring in Orton and fix the O-line in the draft. I think Orton could take us to the playoffs if we could build a good team around him.
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    I hope you're wrong. There are many things about this board that irk me, and your signature is right up there.

    And of course, I want the Bills to win more than 5 games.
    I like football.

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    Very good write up but it is not as if you went out on a limb on anything at all but to say they have no chance against the Jets and other teams is absurd.

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    Wow, Mr Doom and Gloom. I highly doubt Gailey is as one dimensional as you claim he is. He knows you have to run well to set up the passing game. While the O line continues to be a problem, if Spiller learns to wait for holes to open instead of out running his blockers he should have a good year. He showed signs that he is beginning to learn that during preseason.
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    I just don't see how people can say this team is just as bad as it was last year. We won 5 games last year with the worst defense in the NFL, a quarterback change after two weeks, a new head coach/offensive philosophy, etc, etc.

    I hate playing the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" game but this team coulda been 8-8 last year if a few breaks had gone our way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayryp80 View Post
    I hope you're wrong. There are many things about this board that irk me, and your signature is right up there.

    And of course, I want the Bills to win more than 5 games.
    As do I. But we're not there yet. I think we're on the right track, we're just a few years off. Without depth and offensive line help, I just can't see this team making a playoff run in the near future.

    Honestly if we address the Oline properly I think we're not terribly far off, provided Fitz is the answer at QB. We might challange in 2012-13, but we're not going to in 2011-12.
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    7 - 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarylLamonica View Post
    Very good write up but it is not as if you went out on a limb on anything at all but to say they have no chance against the Jets and other teams is absurd.
    The Jets absolutely destroyed us a season ago to the tune of 38-14 and 38-7 (playing scrubs). The reason was because of their pass rush.

    I don't think the jets are world beaters, but based on how the play and their aggressive pass rush, I just don't like how we match up against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampten View Post
    The Jets absolutely destroyed us a season ago to the tune of 38-14 and 38-7 (playing scrubs). The reason was because of their pass rush.

    I don't think the jets are world beaters, but based on how the play and their aggressive pass rush, I just don't like how we match up against them.
    Jets beat us so badly because we couldn't stop their rushing game. They ran it down our throats with LT and Green. I don't see that happening this year, not with Dareus, Williams, Merrriman (hopefully), Barnett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampten View Post
    The Jets absolutely destroyed us a season ago to the tune of 38-14 and 38-7 (playing scrubs). The reason was because of their pass rush.

    I don't think the jets are world beaters, but based on how the play and their aggressive pass rush, I just don't like how we match up against them.

    With Mark Sanchez at QB, the Jets are beatable in every game they play. We might have a defense that can stop their run now and expose Mr. Sanchez.

    More importantly, every NFL team can beat any other NFL team, far too much parity, happens multiple times a year some of the worst teams beat some of the best.

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    I thought we spent a lot of time getting LB depth this year ? Plus with getting Batten back from injury I think we are pretty set there.


    I'm a bit more optimistic than you seem to be against KC,Tenn & the Giants. I also think our defense will be in the mid teens (15-17 area). I think our Dline and LB corps are going to beat up on a lot of offensive lines and force the QB's to throw more bad passes which will result in more turnovers.


    The offensive line is going to be the biggest question mark and we will see how they perform after the first month of the season to really know.

    I think this team IF they can stay healthy mainly on the offensive line can win between 7-9 games realistically. Injury's hit then it could go bad in a hurry and we could be looking at a 4 or 5 win season.


    I respect your points and you made them well and thought out, heres to hoping the Bills have a great season !!


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    5-11 sounds about right. Maybe we'll steal a 6th win but no more than that.

    I can't disagree with any of the points you made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarylLamonica View Post
    With Mark Sanchez at QB, the Jets are beatable in every game they play. We might have a defense that can stop their run now and expose Mr. Sanchez.

    More importantly, every NFL team can beat any other NFL team, far too much parity, happens multiple times a year some of the worst teams beat some of the best.
    I think people rag on Sanchez too much. Is he Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, no he's not. But he's nowhere near as bad as a lot of Bills fans make him out to be. Honestly if they'd have let him throw in the 1st half against the Steelers in the AFC championship game, they'd have won. The entire first half the Jets were Run on 1st down, then run on 2nd unless it was a run for negative yards then pass on 3rd down.

    Sanchez finished 20/33 for 220 and 2 TDs, 0 ints. I'd take that any day of the week from our QB.
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    I agree with pretty much everything you posted, Sampten. I also have us finishing 5-11 for basically the same reasons. We shall see...
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    I think you've written a nice safe piece here, ranging from 3-7 wins! I think you are too pessimistic but understandable based on the last "few" seasons.

    I don't think you give our defence upgrade enough credit and that's why; based on last year; even if the offence doesn't improve ( no reason to think that it will) we will improve on last seasons result.

    I will stick with my 8-8 year and will be happy with that. Next draft we improve the O/L.

    I think we can get to any QB now so there is no team that we have no chance against, however unlikely a win would seem.

    I believe you are wrong this season and we can hopefully celebrate that at the end of the season.

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    Good write-up. I am guessing 1 or 2 more wins. My guess: 6-10 or 7-9... so let's call it 6-9-1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampten View Post
    I think people rag on Sanchez too much. Is he Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, no he's not. But he's nowhere near as bad as a lot of Bills fans make him out to be. Honestly if they'd have let him throw in the 1st half against the Steelers in the AFC championship game, they'd have won. The entire first half the Jets were Run on 1st down, then run on 2nd unless it was a run for negative yards then pass on 3rd down.

    Sanchez finished 20/33 for 220 and 2 TDs, 0 ints. I'd take that any day of the week from our QB.
    I think Sanchez is one of the luckiest QBs in the league, a stellar offensive line and run game plus incredible defense. Yes he was the QB to 2 div titles games but he was there despite him, not because of him.

    I will give him credit for a few things, 1) he has improved each of the first two years, 2) he has played extremely well in playoff games (I always heard Defense and a good run game are critical in the playoffs, imagine that) 3) He is still young. Fact remains, given his team he still only managed to have a 75.3 QB rating.

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    At least this year he did it before the season starts...LOL
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    Well the Steelers have a better pass rush than the Jets and a better defense overall, yet the Bills almost beat them. I definitely the Bills have a chance to steal game from the Jetss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffman View Post
    At least this year he did it before the season starts...LOL
    Every year I do it before the season starts.

    In 6 months, you'll again lie and say that I didn't post this.

    You have some sort of sick and twisted vendatta against me for no apparent reason. Well, I guess your reason is that I dare say Maybin never weighed 250lbs, like the media guide reported.

    I was right, you were wrong. You also told me that a 6'4 player can't possibly weigh, what I again suggested Maybin weigh, which was 195lbs in college, and he came into camp around 205 in his rookie year. Yet, when I point out that a 6'2 Ryan Miller weighs in at 175lbs, you just ignore the comment.

    You've got this 'thing' against a few of us on here, and it's quite comical that you are completely clueless. You are, by defination, a troll.
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