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    Re-sign Stevie, Fred and Chandler... then sign a Mario Williams or Robert Mathis in FA... I am 100% ok with going LT in the first.

    But we still need another WR, CB, and LB help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdub_bills_12 View Post
    Re-sign Stevie, Fred and Chandler... then sign a Mario Williams or Robert Mathis in FA... I am 100% ok with going LT in the first.

    But we still need another WR, CB, and LB help.
    Mathis? Remotely possible. Mario Williams? Only in Madden.
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    Nix is going to draft Trent Richardson in the 1st
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    Right now I dont see a pass rusher that would be better then us picking a legit LT or playmaker WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaGatorsBuffaloBills View Post
    I live in SEC country and have been forced to watch Upshaw all year long, never once did I watch an Alabama game where Upshaw was just dominated a game. He is no where close to being an elite pass rusher and last I checked that was something we desperately needed on defense.

    When you take someone with a top 10 pick, he better be an elite talent at his position, Upshaw isn't "elite" in regards to getting after the quarterback. Nix blatenly said in his press confrence that in the NFL you have to be able to get after the quarterback if you want to win, if they take Upshaw to be that guy the'll we'll rank in the bottom third in sacks once again next year.
    Sorry that you were forced to watch some of the best defensive players in college.

    If you consider sacks the only part of a pass rush, then again, it goes to show what you dont know. Before the injury bug hit this season, the pass rush was disrupting the timing of every QB they faced. That led to INT's. Which im pretty sure led to victories for the Bills.

    Ive said it before, Courtney Upshaw is a COMPLETE player. He will be on the field for 3 downs on every series. He is a force against the run, which if you didnt notice the Bills again in the bottom 5 of the league in run defense. He gets after the QB and the ball. That doesnt seem to matter to a lot of people, but to me it does.

    Aldon Smith is a great pass rusher, but he's not an every down player. Upshaw is. Say what you want about the Oline, but they gave up fewer sacks than any team in the league. Fitz started all 16 games, and aside from injuries, all 3 guys that played LT did their jobs well. Taking a T is a waste of a pick at #10.

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    Thank you! I said this in a topic I made before. Upshaw is slow and isn't an elite pass rusher. Coples played DT in college, so why is he being projected as DE?

    Kalil, Reiff and Martin are all top 10 talent and will be solid LTs in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nateodoms'bff View Post
    Sorry that you were forced to watch some of the best defensive players in college.

    If you consider sacks the only part of a pass rush, then again, it goes to show what you dont know. Before the injury bug hit this season, the pass rush was disrupting the timing of every QB they faced. That led to INT's. Which im pretty sure led to victories for the Bills.

    Ive said it before, Courtney Upshaw is a COMPLETE player. He will be on the field for 3 downs on every series. He is a force against the run, which if you didnt notice the Bills again in the bottom 5 of the league in run defense. He gets after the QB and the ball. That doesnt seem to matter to a lot of people, but to me it does.

    Aldon Smith is a great pass rusher, but he's not an every down player. Upshaw is. Say what you want about the Oline, but they gave up fewer sacks than any team in the league. Fitz started all 16 games, and aside from injuries, all 3 guys that played LT did their jobs well. Taking a T is a waste of a pick at #10.
    Upshaw will be a LDE in the NFL and will average 4-6 sacks a year in the NFL. Not worth a top 10 pick, hate to break it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaGatorsBuffaloBills View Post
    Upshaw will be a LDE in the NFL and will average 4-6 sacks a year in the NFL. Not worth a top 10 pick, hate to break it to you.
    Ha!

    Do you think that he will warrant a double team? If you lined him up with Williams and Dareus, you think he wont be able to overpower a T? Sorry man, but whatever team takes him is going to have an All-Pro player for 10 years. Again, if he runs a 4.7 40, who cares! A guy that is 270lbs that moves that fast and is violent at the line is going to get pressures and sacks on pure power alone. Honestly, you have no idea what you are saying at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nateodoms'bff View Post
    Calling Courtney Upshaw Chris Kelsay says a lot about what you dont know.

    What is a pure pass rusher to you? A speed guy that does nothing against the run? A situational guy that needs to be developed? You are right when you say that there isnt one of those guys in this draft. But to slight Upshaw is just foolish. The guy is an every down player, and is light years better than anyone currently on the roster. He can play standing up or with his hand on the ground, and his game does not suffer either way. He is much more violent than Kelsay, and always goes for the ball. He may not have the flashy 40 time or sack totals, but he is the best player on the best defense in college football. Ill take that all day over a LT or flashy DE/OLB with limited production.
    You hit upshaw right on the money and i agree, he should be the pick at #10 without thinking twice !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUFF BANDIT View Post
    You hit upshaw right on the money and i agree, he should be the pick at #10 without thinking twice !
    Thanks! Some people around here just dont get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUFF BANDIT View Post
    You hit upshaw right on the money and i agree, he should be the pick at #10 without thinking twice !
    Maybe...maybe not. I think that right now he projects at around 17-20. If he blows up at the combine, I can see him going 10th. If not, I could see him going 40. If, as Odomes said, he runs a "4.7 40," the latter may be true.

    Point is, it's just too early to tell. Whether he's taken in the 1st or the 2nd, he's the same player. However, it would be a lot sweeter if our top 2 picks were DeCastro and Upshaw than if they were, say, Upshaw and Brandon Lindsey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    why did they pass on oher then? or was that jauron?

    That was Jauron, but Modrak believed at the time that Oher wasn't an LT, that he was an RT. And that now looks to be exactly correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nateodoms'bff View Post
    Sorry that you were forced to watch some of the best defensive players in college.

    If you consider sacks the only part of a pass rush, then again, it goes to show what you dont know. Before the injury bug hit this season, the pass rush was disrupting the timing of every QB they faced. That led to INT's. Which im pretty sure led to victories for the Bills.

    Ive said it before, Courtney Upshaw is a COMPLETE player. He will be on the field for 3 downs on every series. He is a force against the run, which if you didnt notice the Bills again in the bottom 5 of the league in run defense. He gets after the QB and the ball. That doesnt seem to matter to a lot of people, but to me it does.

    Aldon Smith is a great pass rusher, but he's not an every down player. Upshaw is. Say what you want about the Oline, but they gave up fewer sacks than any team in the league. Fitz started all 16 games, and aside from injuries, all 3 guys that played LT did their jobs well. Taking a T is a waste of a pick at #10.

    We got lucky those first few games. Who were the injuries that hurt our pass rush those first few games? The only guy who can really rush, Merriman, was a non-factor this year, and that includes the early games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaGatorsBuffaloBills View Post
    Upshaw will be a LDE in the NFL and will average 4-6 sacks a year in the NFL. Not worth a top 10 pick, hate to break it to you.

    Don't worry, it's only "breaking it to us" if it's a fact. An opinion, while a lovely thing, doesn't "break" anything to us.

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    What about that Ingram kid that got mentioned in the mock draft? A hybrid OLB/DE with the things being said about Ingram sounds pretty good to me. No?

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    Reynolds from BYU is a true LT and he will most likely go in the 2nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    why did they pass on oher then? or was that jauron?
    I try to think about the Buddy Nix era. If you keep thinking that things are just going to be the same with a different GM, that's not how today's NFL works. Buddy is the guy that makes the draft picks. The '10 draft had CJ, who has proven that he can play at a very high level of performance. Carrington was raw as a rookie, but still hasn't impressed. Troup and Easley may yet turn out to be great picks or total busts, really. We'll just have to wait and see how to finally grade that draft.

    The '11 draft was our best in a long while. Dareus has not hit his peak yet and we could end up with 4 starters out of that draft, eventually. Three, at least, seems very resonable.

    If we get 3 solid starters in the '12 draft (OLB, DE, OT) and another player in FA (WR), that would be a big boost. Add a healthy and productive Easley and Troup coming into their own and we suddenly look pretty good on paper, at least.
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    Default Martin a RT

    Martin is projected to be a RT in the NFL.

    Reiff is a possibility, and I like what one poster said about Upshaw having Ray Lewis or James Harrison potential.

    However where the Bills are short is at the freak athlete skill position, i.e. Passrusher and Wide Receiver. As that 10 gives you the chance to improve your star quality at those positions one may be tempted there.

    So Reiff, Upshaw, WR (Blackmon or Floyd) or DE (Coples, Ingram, etc.)

    I think, no Martin.

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