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    http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboa...t-details.html

    Mario Williams' record-breaking contract with the Buffalo Bills is about as spread out as you can get for a deal so large. That benefits both the Bills, who want the salary-cap hits to be relatively even, and Williams, who doesn't want the deal back-loaded to the point where he's sure to get released later on. In other words, it's not a phony-money deal, which the Bills don't do.

    The deal is for six years and $96 million. It goes up to $100 million counting incentives. Here are the particulars, obtained by The News:

    Williams got an initial signing bonus of $19 million. He gets a base salary this year of $5.9 million.
    In 2013, he gets an option bonus of $8 million, with a base salary of $6.5 million. In 2014, he gest a roster bonus of $10.6 million with a base salary of $1.9 million. In 2015, he gets a roster bonus of $1 million with a base salary of $12.1 million. In 2016, he gets a roster bonus of $2.5 million with a base salary of $11.5 million. In 2017, he gets a roster bonus of $3.5 million with a base salary of $11.4 million. He also has workout bonuses that amount to a total of $2.1 million over the first five years of the contract.

    Williams gets $53 million over the first three years of the contract. Chicago's Julius Peppers was the previous highest paid defensive player in NFL history. His contract called for $40.5 million the first three years. So that's a significant upgrade for Williams.

    The guarantees in a contract get a bit complicated. Money can be guaranteed against three events: injury (meaning the money is paid even if the player gets hurt), skill (meaning the player gets the money even if he gets cut because he's not good enough) and salary cap (meaning the player gets the money regardless of what cap problems the team encounters). The guarantee can count for any one or all of the three. In Williams' deal, the first $25 million is fully guaranteed. The next $25 million is guaranteed against injury only. Presuming he doesn't join a monastery in Tibet in the next year and he gets the $8 million option bonus, then $39.4 million will be guaranteed. The last $10.6 million guaranteed in 2014 is for injury only. Williams obviously is not going to get cut due to lack of skill. And the NFL is expected to see a big jump in the salary cap in two years when new television contracts kick in.

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    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    Which means we should still have a boat load of salary cap money we can spend right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLO-N-SD View Post
    Which means we should still have a boat load of salary cap money we can spend right?
    Yes but the Bills (and 21 other teams) do not use the standard salary cap spending philosophies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    I think they've blown through that, tbh. However, this is on RW stepping up the plate, many tx ...
    Kyle Williams: “But when you go inside those lines, all those things fall by the wayside. If you’re not out there for the right reasons, and that’s to beat a man, win a football game, you’re not going to last very long. This game is whip or be whipped, and I don’t like being whipped.”"


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    Quote Originally Posted by kanatablues View Post
    I think they've blown through that, tbh. However, this is on RW stepping up the plate, many tx ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    Where's Bumbles when you need him...
    Lol, sleeping one off?

    Fwiw, this site has updated the figures for cash-to-the-cap with the contract:

    http://nyjetscap.com/Bills/bills2012.php
    Current Estimated Cash Spend: $124,617,791(all players on roster, not top 53)
    Kyle Williams: “But when you go inside those lines, all those things fall by the wayside. If you’re not out there for the right reasons, and that’s to beat a man, win a football game, you’re not going to last very long. This game is whip or be whipped, and I don’t like being whipped.”"


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    So we still have a lot of wiggle room for another decent FA and resigning Bell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rigante Hammer View Post
    So we still have a lot of wiggle room for another decent FA and resigning Bell?
    Probably need to shave about 5mill off that number for the rookie deals. Also will wanna keep some in your back pocket for injuries thoughout the regular season.

    But, with that said there is still some room, to extend Freddy and pickup some lower end FA's for depth/upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    So we still have a lot of room under the cap, but Cash to the cap is pretty much toast. If I understand it all correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    So we still have roughly 15 mil in cap space? That's pretty nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    Wow, yeah, I read it as a 9 million cap as well (9.06, right?). I like this, and it's what I've been thinking- that the Bills are still well under the cap, and they can still move around a little bit in FA. Then after draft and cuts, they can still be well-below the cap. Excellent news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).

    Yup. Hope we won't see more "Go, Buddy, just grab Kamerion Wimbley / Mike Wallace" threads.

    We had about $30 million remaining under cash-to-cap before signing Mario. With roughly $5 million remaining even including the rolled-over money, we won't be getting any more big names.

    And for those of you still looking at what's available under the "cap," we don't use that system of accounting. We only use cash to cap, which leaves us with roughly $5 mill remaining, which would have to include both the signing bonus and the first year's salary of anyone we pick up.

    There'll be a cut or two that'll save us money, but we'll be forced to sign someone to replace the person we cut, so the savings is always less than you think it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurman#1 View Post
    Yup. Hope we won't see more "Go, Buddy, just grab Kamerion Wimbley / Mike Wallace" threads.

    We had about $30 million remaining under cash-to-cap before signing Mario. With roughly $5 million remaining even including the rolled-over money, we won't be getting any more big names.

    And for those of you still looking at what's available under the "cap," we don't use that system of accounting. We only use cash to cap, which leaves us with roughly $5 mill remaining, which would have to include both the signing bonus and the first year's salary of anyone we pick up.

    There'll be a cut or two that'll save us money, but we'll be forced to sign someone to replace the person we cut, so the savings is always less than you think it will be.
    They would probably just bank on one of the rookies taking the cut person's place on the roster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurman#1 View Post
    Yup. Hope we won't see more "Go, Buddy, just grab Kamerion Wimbley / Mike Wallace" threads.

    We had about $30 million remaining under cash-to-cap before signing Mario. With roughly $5 million remaining even including the rolled-over money, we won't be getting any more big names.

    And for those of you still looking at what's available under the "cap," we don't use that system of accounting. We only use cash to cap, which leaves us with roughly $5 mill remaining, which would have to include both the signing bonus and the first year's salary of anyone we pick up.

    There'll be a cut or two that'll save us money, but we'll be forced to sign someone to replace the person we cut, so the savings is always less than you think it will be.
    I agree with this, but it's clear that they are going over cash-to-cap this year (no way around it). So the question is, by how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVABilliever View Post
    I agree with this, but it's clear that they are going over cash-to-cap this year (no way around it). So the question is, by how much?
    I'd think that in the coming weeks, if there's a WR or CB that is considered starting material and can be had at medium sized bucks, Nix would at least consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVABilliever View Post
    I agree with this, but it's clear that they are going over cash-to-cap this year (no way around it). So the question is, by how much?
    According to the link I provided above, they are already over it without considering any further spending. So ... your guess is as good as mine, purely up to RW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVABilliever View Post
    I agree with this, but it's clear that they are going over cash-to-cap this year (no way around it). So the question is, by how much?

    from the link kanata gave:http://nyjetscap.com/Bills/bills2012.php
    Current Estimated Cash Spend: $124,617,791(all players on roster, not top 53)

    We have 66 guys - so 13 will be gone. If one of them is Edwards, then that will come to around $10 mill. Prorate for time in camp, etc.... 8 mill

    To me it looks like Cash Spend (after cuts) will be ~ 124 -8 = 116 + 7 (rookies) = 123+ 4 (FJ) = 127. So we may be under, but not by a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    His cash to cap hit is 24.9 Million.

    His salary cap hit for this year is 9 Million.

    The Bills are still well under the salary cap. However they are pushing their cash-to-cap spending limit (just like Nix said he could/would do).
    would it be possible for someone to explain to me what the differnce is? and yes i did google it and i couldnt find a worthy answer. keep it simple its friday and im tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoRo1183 View Post
    would it be possible for someone to explain to me what the differnce is? and yes i did google it and i couldnt find a worthy answer. keep it simple its friday and im tired.
    Cash-to-the-cap accounting - imagine you decide on an arbitrary limit of $100 a month for beer and then track your spending to make sure you don't spend more than $100.

    Salary cap accounting - very complex set of rules to ensure teams are in compliance with CBA (complicated primer here).
    Kyle Williams: “But when you go inside those lines, all those things fall by the wayside. If you’re not out there for the right reasons, and that’s to beat a man, win a football game, you’re not going to last very long. This game is whip or be whipped, and I don’t like being whipped.”"


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