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    Quote Originally Posted by whorlnut View Post
    I would rather have Cousins over either of them.
    I like him too. I think he can be developed into a pretty good QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AO'sBills88 View Post
    The thing is if people are going to use the height argument against Wilson then you have to use the same argument against Osweiler. How many 6'7" QB's have succeeded in this league? Either way the height argument is way overplayed. Give me the guy who plays like the better QB instead of one who simply has better measurables. Osweiler might be the better combine prospect but on the field its not even close, Russell Wilson is the better player.
    Guess what AO, I don't want either Wilson or Osweiler on the Bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyer_maker3 View Post
    Brees is 6 feet. . .
    Yes, he's 6 feet tall. My post was about quarterbacks under 6'0 tall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Starks View Post
    Yes, he's 6 feet tall. My post was about quarterbacks under 6'0 tall.
    I knew you would say that, but I didnt care.

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    Osweiller looks like an eight year project to me.
    By the time coaches get him straightened out, he'll be older than Weeden.

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    mark my words....Wilson will be a super bowl mvp sometime in next ten years...yes he is a little short but short QBs seem to find a way to suceed and overcome...if only bad thing you can say about him is his height, then you need to step back and take another look

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan42790 View Post
    I fully agree. Osweiler is only getting recognition because of his height. Everything else is very suspect. The only thing I can say positive about Osweiler is he has good foot work, and he doesn't panic when there's pressure. That's pretty much it.
    If you read the scouting reports on Osweiler (I posted one on one of the other Osweiler threads), it said that because of his throwing motion, his ball left at about the same height as if thrown by a guy 5'10". In other words, Osweiler's height does nothing for him.

    Wilson's about 5'11", and his height is the only knock on him. Everything else says "franchise QB prosptect". If he was 6'2" (Griffin's height), he'd be right up there with Luck and Griffin and the Bills would have no chance at all at him. IMO, he'll be the best non-first round prospect since Drew Brees.

    Needless to say, I'd love for the Bills to take him at some point in the draft.
    Should have kept Marshawn ... and Andy ... Jairus ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by justRN View Post
    I honestly think he's more of a product of Wisconsins system and their amazing O line.

    I think he's good, but not that good. I would go Cousins before him. I don't know jack about Osweiler enough to comment at least.
    Wilson started and was a winner for 3 years at NC State. He graduated and went to Wisconsin as a grad student for 2011. He looked like he'd been playing at Wisconsin for years from the first game of the season. He was also voted team captain, so he's not only a fast learner, he's a leader, too.
    Should have kept Marshawn ... and Andy ... Jairus ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDA_D View Post
    Wilson started and was a winner for 3 years at NC State. He graduated and went to Wisconsin as a grad student for 2011. He looked like he'd been playing at Wisconsin for years from the first game of the season. He was also voted team captain, so he's not only a fast learner, he's a leader, too.
    this is a great point...imagine how fast he could learn behind Fitz...then we could ditch Pigpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDA_D View Post
    If you read the scouting reports on Osweiler (I posted one on one of the other Osweiler threads), it said that because of his throwing motion, his ball left at about the same height as if thrown by a guy 5'10". In other words, Osweiler's height does nothing for him.

    Wilson's about 5'11", and his height is the only knock on him. Everything else says "franchise QB prosptect". If he was 6'2" (Griffin's height), he'd be right up there with Luck and Griffin and the Bills would have no chance at all at him. IMO, he'll be the best non-first round prospect since Drew Brees.

    Needless to say, I'd love for the Bills to take him at some point in the draft.
    this is the most important thing for people to realize...he is a Doug Flutie clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDA_D View Post
    Wilson started and was a winner for 3 years at NC State. He graduated and went to Wisconsin as a grad student for 2011. He looked like he'd been playing at Wisconsin for years from the first game of the season. He was also voted team captain, so he's not only a fast learner, he's a leader, too.
    Remind me, what did Russell Wilson "win" at North Carolina State?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigity2 View Post
    this is the most important thing for people to realize...he is a Doug Flutie clone.
    We already dealt with Doug Flutie once. Once was enough. It's time to stop living in the ******* past around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornette'sCommentary View Post
    We already dealt with Doug Flutie once. Once was enough. It's time to stop living in the ******* past around here.
    lol...so what you're saying is Flutie wasn't a winning QB? not sure exactly what you're referring to and what you don't like about Flutie, but if memory serves he was a winning QB...what more do you want?

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    Who will better in 2-3 years from now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornette'sCommentary View Post
    Remind me, what did Russell Wilson "win" at North Carolina State?

    He didn't have nearly the supporting cast at State like he did Wisconson. He always had the wolf pack in game but one man can't do it all. He was a tremendous asset to the WolfPack!
    Thank you Buddy, Thank you for bringing us Mr. Whaley.

    Lets try something new. Instead of standing behind our beloved Bills, let's stand in front of them, just so they have to change direction!

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    Osweiler has a higher ceiling thats where his value is.

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    i dont care who they draft just as long as whoever they draft makes the roster and pushes the Thig out of town

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    And neither will be NFL caliber QB's.

    Who cares.

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    In no way, shape, or form is Wilson's arm better than Brock's.

    Yes Wilson has a pretty good one considering his size, but Brock's is still superior even with all the work he needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyer_maker3 View Post
    I like him too. I think he can be developed into a pretty good QB.
    He's my pick too.

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