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    http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboa...ea-leaves.html

    The Bible says "an eye for an eye" and "turn the other cheek."

    NFL executives likewise speak in contradictory tongues every other sentence the week leading up to the draft.

    So it was at the Bills' annual pre-draft luncheon today at One Bills Drive. It's hard to draw too many conclusions about which direction the Bills are going with the 10th pick, which is exactly what Bills General Manager Buddy Nix and his entourage want eight days before the NFL Draft.

    "I tell you this every time and you don’t listen, you don’t believe me," Nix started out. "But I’m gonna tell you anyway. Don’t get pinned down, now, by connecting the dots. It’s fun. I enjoy reading it. But it’s fantasy football. It has nothing to do with what we might do. I don’t care how many draftniks think that’s where we’re going and that’s the best pick for us. If that’s not the guy we’ve got rated there, we won’t take him. So don’t get yourself in a spot where it sounds like you know and it don’t work out that way."

    Nix on the No. 10 pick: "You’d think at 10 you’d get a starter. With us, we’d like to get a difference-maker or a playmaker, an impact guy. You should get a starter."

    At the end of the 45-minute session, Nix returned to the quesiton of getting a difference-maker as it related to an offensive tackle. Said Nix: "I guess I was thinking a big play maker, which a tackle is not. But a difference maker is a guy that makes youre team better and can do things to make you be able to do more, like throwing down the field more. So I think in that light, certainly a left tackle fits that need."

    More Nix on tackles: "We need tackles. But I’m gonna make this clear. We think Chris Hairston can play left tackle for us and win. He did it. He went in there. Everybody says Fitz gets the ball out quick, and that’s true. But we run a lot of empty sets. There’s five blockers. If they bring six he’d better get it out quick or he’s gonna get hit in the mouth. In this offense he’s gotta get it out quick. Chris Hairston he may not be the prettiest foot athlete, but he’s got so much length that he can protect the back side. We feel he can do that."

    So offensive tackle clearly remains a top option for the Bills in the first round.
    The smart money says the receiver position is very deep and the Bills may wait to supplement that spot. "The wide receiver position is deep in this draft," Nix said again Wednesday.

    Nix acknowledged the team needs linebacker depth. Then he said Boston College first-round prospect Luke Kuechly could play all three linebacker positions in Buffalo. Meanwhile, there was a lot of discussion about the need for a cornerback. BIlls college scouting chief Chuck Cook was asked about the top two cornerbacks, South Carolina's Stephon Gilmore and Alabama's Dre Kirkpatrick.

    Cook on Gilmore: "We like him. We think he’s a good, strong, sturdy corner who can press. Can run in the hip poicket and make palys. We like his physicalness in coming up in run support. I do think its a good year for cornerback."

    Cook on Kirkpatrick: "Dre is from a great scheme. They’re so solid up front, that helps the corners. He can play more physical and he can play the ball and he can gamble a little bit more in that scheme because they are getting to the quarterback a little bit quicker. But I do think he’s physical. He can support and he can play the deep ball. ... Both of those guys are viable candidates for us."

    ---Mark Gaughan

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    I think it comes down to Glenn, Keuchly & Gilmore/Kirkpatrick at 10...

    For the record, I'm perfectly fine with any of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    I think it comes down to Glenn, Keuchly & Gilmore/Kirkpatrick at 10...

    For the record, I'm perfectly fine with any of them...
    I'm liking the idea of Keuchly more and more each day. Glenn would be mt next choice after Kalil. Just don't know if buddy will like the value of Glenn at 10.

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    Maybe I'm slow but that doesn't really clear it up for me. I still think its floyd or keuchly tho.

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    Hard to tell now, as long as we get a playmaker ill be happy so either Luke or Floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    I think it comes down to Glenn, Keuchly & Gilmore/Kirkpatrick at 10...

    For the record, I'm perfectly fine with any of them...
    You could maybe add Jonathan Martin if they love him. I think it is OT or Kuechly. The depth in the CB may mean we wait - similar to WR.

    Knowing how much Nix likes versatility and our lack of LB depth. I think Kuechly could be the pick if he is still there and if we don't trade down which I also think could be plan A
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    I have to agree with them on Kirkpatrick. He reminds me to much of McKelvin, ball skills wise, for me to want him. Not to mention he played on the best defense we've probabaly ever seen in college football. I've watched to many games of recievers getting behind him for me to like him at 10.

    However, I still believe the Bills take Martin at 10. Nobody is talking about him, all the attention is on Kalil and Glenn and I could see Nix being very high on him: Smart, good feet, good hands and good technique. The only major knock on him was his strength and last I checked that can be addressed in the NFL.

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    LOL!
    Article starts with "Don't connect the dots."
    Followed by the Article attempts connecting the dots.

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    I don't understand how you can conclude that the Bills prioritize an OT in round 1 after Nix says they think Hairston can do a good job there.

    I'm not against picking Glenn, I just don't see how this constitutes reading the tea leaves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    I think it comes down to Glenn, Keuchly & Gilmore/Kirkpatrick at 10...

    For the record, I'm perfectly fine with any of them...
    From what they said about Kirkpatrick makes me think he's NOT in play at 10. They basically say Alabama's scheme made him look better than he really is because of how good they are up front and he's able to gamble more because of it.

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    I am curious if they believe that Hairston can legit start for us at LT

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrober38 View Post
    I don't understand how you can conclude that the Bills prioritize an OT in round 1 after Nix says they think Hairston can do a good job there.

    I'm not against picking Glenn, I just don't see how this constitutes reading the tea leaves...
    Yes but he also said:

    "I guess I was thinking a big play maker, which a tackle is not. But a difference maker is a guy that makes your team better and can do things to make you be able to do more, like throwing down the field more. So I think in that light, certainly a left tackle fits that need."

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    Wow am I glad that is over



    This certainly changes EVERYTHING

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    It really feels like it Luke or Floyd... unless someone somehow falls

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    I think it comes down to Glenn, Keuchly & Gilmore/Kirkpatrick at 10...

    For the record, I'm perfectly fine with any of them...
    I think these are the guys as well and I agree that I'm perfectly fine with any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoLl_TiDe View Post
    It really feels like it Luke or Floyd... unless someone somehow falls
    Floyd is an outside chance now. To not bring your top 10 pick in for a visit would be strange especially given that the top 4-5 draft picks are virtually set in stone. Why would you not bring him in?
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    Why would Nix bring up Kueckly by name if that is who he is targeting? It seems likely to me that the two teams that draft right after us, KC and Seattle, may have a strong interest in Kueckly. Why make those teams think they would need to jump ahead of us to get him? Just doesn't make sense to me, if that is who he truly wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunta53 View Post
    Yes but he also said:

    "I guess I was thinking a big play maker, which a tackle is not. But a difference maker is a guy that makes your team better and can do things to make you be able to do more, like throwing down the field more. So I think in that light, certainly a left tackle fits that need."
    It's no secret the Bills want to get better at OT. They've been saying that since Nix took the job.

    The problem is Nix will never be willing to leave his draft board to pick one in round 1, and the value clearly won't be there when we pick.

    I like Glenn as the 2nd best OT in the draft, but in terms of overall value, I don't see anyway Nix passes up talents like Kuechly, Ingram, Barron or either of the CBs to draft an OT who is graded as roughly the 20th best player in the draft.

    The only way they pick Glenn #10 is if they legitimately think he's a top 10 talent. Nix will not stray from his big board for the sake of picking a LT.

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    Well, if Nix says "Don't connect the dots", I'll say that if Ryan Tannenhill slides, he's the pick at 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrober38 View Post
    I don't understand how you can conclude that the Bills prioritize an OT in round 1 after Nix says they think Hairston can do a good job there.

    I'm not against picking Glenn, I just don't see how this constitutes reading the tea leaves...
    I don't believe all the talk that they think Hairston is starting left tackle material right now. If they thought that, then why was he splitting time with Bell late in the season? If he was doing so good then why would he have lost his starting job to a injury prone Bell?

    Plus, Nix has gone back and forth all offseason on what they think about Hairston. In February he said that Hairston struggled and needed to get better, two months later he says he thinks he can be our starting left tackle.

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