Ryan Fitzpatrick/Turnover machine

[DIESEL-USMC]

So its ok to insult other posters... Duly noted

not at all..... but he was so "classy" when he did it.

[dog14787]

not at all..... but he was so "classy" when he did it.

PTR is a good fella who just gets a little passionate defending his QB like the rest of you.

[DIESEL-USMC]

PTR is a good fella who just gets a little passionate defending his QB like the rest of you.

He probably is. Just making light of the situation at the expense of the word "crap"

[Buffdaddy]

That's why we are thinking of signing Vince Young. He'll make Fitz look great in comparison.

[dog14787]

That's why we are thinking of signing Vince Young. He'll make Fitz look great in comparison.

Vince Young may come in and look ugly , but win football games

[kingtut420]

I haven't had a chance to read this yet, but I would like to thank all of the contributors for making it what it is today. Here's to you!!

[Buffdaddy]

Vince Young may come in and look ugly , but win football games

He's horrible. He was horrible last year with the Eagles. And he was like Tebow in TN...his team won some games but it was not because of him. Do you really think we can win throwing the ball 10-15 times a game? That's the only chance you have to win with Young and that's just not going to work here.

[dog14787]

He's horrible. He was horrible last year with the Eagles. And he was like Tebow in TN...his team won some games but it was not because of him. Do you really think we can win throwing the ball 10-15 times a game? That's the only chance you have to win with Young and that's just not going to work here.

with our running game and defense, what makes you so sure we can't win football games without throwing the football?

[steve2006]

One way to cut down on interceptions is to run the football a lot more and stick with the run throughout the entire game. I'm hoping an improved defense and more confidence by Chan in the run blocking as well as both rbs will allow this to happen.

[dog14787]

One way to cut down on interceptions is to run the football a lot more and stick with the run throughout the entire game. I'm hoping an improved defense and more confidence by Chan in the run blocking as well as both rbs will allow this to happen.

What he said

[TheyCallMeAndy]

every time I see someone whine about Fitz's ints I wonder if they watched the games or just look at the numbers and make assumptions.

Some picks were not his fault, some where.

He's a marginal starting QB who can flash greatness as long as his offense is top notch, but a tremendous backup.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

One way to cut down on interceptions is to run the football a lot more and stick with the run throughout the entire game. I'm hoping an improved defense and more confidence by Chan in the run blocking as well as both rbs will allow this to happen.

Agreed.

Fitz should be throwing the ball as much as Alex Smith.

[Big B]

He's horrible. He was horrible last year with the Eagles. And he was like Tebow in TN...his team won some games but it was not because of him. Do you really think we can win throwing the ball 10-15 times a game? That's the only chance you have to win with Young and that's just not going to work here.

His athleticism alone takes pressure off the rest of the offense. He may not be the smartest guy or the best passer, but he can be effective if used properly.

[Koko78]

with our running game and defense, what makes you so sure we can't win football games without throwing the football?

If that is the case, what does it matter if it's Thigpen or Young backing up Fitz?

[dog14787]

If that is the case, what does it matter if it's Thigpen or Young backing up Fitz?

I see at least a slight chance of an upside/future with VY, Thigpen, not so much, in fact, not at all

[TrevorBills]

and you claim to know better then Elway, what a joke, and wasn't you one of the posters that said he wouldn't go in the 2nd

Kind of like how you claim to know better then most NFL teams.

[billsfantampa]

One way to cut down on interceptions is to run the football a lot more and stick with the run throughout the entire game. I'm hoping an improved defense and more confidence by Chan in the run blocking as well as both rbs will allow this to happen.

This is where Vince Young would fit in..with a full run game. I see Fitz starting out well but then deteriorate as defenses find his flaws, as they did last year after the running game was gone with Jackson. Vince can manage a game and get wins..I know he definitely didn't show it last year in Philly but their OL wasn't that great either. I think Chan can get Vince going in the right direction better than Thigpen. Vince should keep Fitz motivated to do well also. I like the idea. Lets see what happens.

[Scott7975]

Seriously, O.K., you tell me what I'm missing, because I don't see us winning football games, Championships, like the QB comparison everyone else keeps throwing at me, Eli Manning. Lets also keep in mind this is a career long problem with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick has thrown more INT's than games played in the NFL and the problem seems to be getting worse, not better.

So by all means, tell me what I'm missing,

More injuries then a train wreck with multiple line juggles/center juggles and cracked ribs. Reciever situation and a defense that was one of the worst in the league. We played from behind forcing the issue. All these can and will contribute to INTs.

Brett Farve - dont think I need to say anything here

Tom Brady - How many times did we pick off *the best QB in the league*?

Many star QBs go through INT hell. It happens. Especially when you have a mediocre line and half of your team was put on IR. We had mediocre starters... what do you think the 2nd and 3rd string players were?

Quite a few of his INTs were tipped and dropped passes that were right in the hands of the recievers.

[Griff]

Of course we watched the games smh, there were some games where he completely overthrew receivers

you can say that about every QB.

[Griff]

Just like every time I see someone praise the O-line I wonder if they watched the games or just looked at the low sack numbers and make assumptions.

Our Oline was in shambles last year, but the sack numbers were mostly because of the quick release system. However they did do a great job of run blocking.