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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmoorman4jesus View Post
    beter than 60% of camp invites, learn how to read.
    I would argue that if in your opinion he is only better than just over half of camp invites , after having been in the league for as long as he has, it's an even better reason to not waste time with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrb16915 View Post
    Half way decent players like Williams, will actually be somewhat selective in picking the team they will sign with. He will want to go to a team where he believes he has a chance of playing. Compared to most NFL teams, the perception is that the Bills are weak at WR. This gives them a chance to sign him.
    I could see him signing with Tennessee. They need receivers and he would play with Hasselbeck again unless they hand the job to Locker.
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    The guy is worthless.. Donald Jones shows more promise
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmoorman4jesus View Post
    My thoughts on this stuff are documented. There is no risk, I dont want to hear about taking a spot. Of the 90 guys you can bring to camp, this guy is beter than probably 65 or 70 of them, save it. Big body chain mover, who was breaking out in 2010, with no QB. Yeah, I would certainly give him a shot. He would win the outside job next to Steve easily. We wont though, so its a waste of a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by house23 View Post
    You put too much thought into multiple hypotheticals that don't matter. They will not pick up Mike Williams.. But they should.
    You put too little thought into personnel decisions. If the Bills should sign this guy, there are 15 other teams that should, as well, including the Seahawks. And one of those teams would have signed him already. Someone would have gobbled him up.

    Williams is more damaged goods than Vince Young, and teams weren't beating down Vince's door. Vince ended up in Buffalo because the Bills needed SOMEONE to come in and compete for the backup job. The Bills aren't that desperate for a receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MummySheet View Post
    Woah, over react much? All I said was our WR corps is as no-name as Seattle's. Hence you thinking our WRs are better because you know their names, well, it doesn't fly.

    Never did I say anything about wanting Mike Williams, not wanting Mike Williams or evaluating Buddy Nix. Take a chill pill, and learn to read.

    Sorry. Fair point, to be sure.

    Yeah, I agree the Bills don't have lights out receivers. They have potential but haven't really done it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaw66 View Post
    You put too little thought into personnel decisions. If the Bills should sign this guy, there are 15 other teams that should, as well, including the Seahawks. And one of those teams would have signed him already. Someone would have gobbled him up.

    Williams is more damaged goods than Vince Young, and teams weren't beating down Vince's door. Vince ended up in Buffalo because the Bills needed SOMEONE to come in and compete for the backup job. The Bills aren't that desperate for a receiver.
    They were willing to spend a 3rd on Flash Gordon in the supplemental draft. They're desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by house23 View Post
    Bringing in more talent and competition never makes you worse.. Ever.

    Bottom Line..
    While I agree, I don't think he is an upgrade to the vets they brought in to compete here already. He is no better than Clowney or Hagan. Why waste a roster spot on him? I see the point on competition, but splicing in every FA WR on the market doesn't necessarily add competition. He would be coming into an unfamiliar team with a spread style offense. The thrived in a West Coast offense 2 years ago and did poorly in the improvisational spread they had last year. So he did poorly in the offense that is similar to what we have now... Why do we want him again?

    People get all excited every time a player is cut, but don't bother to see if his addition will actually help this team. Bringing in an older guy who has had limited to no success his entire career makes no sense. We have younger players who are just as good of athletes and most of whom already know the system. This guy played in a similar system last year and couldn't make anything happen. Sounds like he is a perfect candidate to go to Tennessee to play with a guy he has had success in the past with.

    Just strikes me as a waste of a roster spot. I would take TO as a FA add before I would take this guy and I want nothing to do with TO. At least TO though would bring some proven skill set to the table.
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    Lets sign every player that is cut or on the trade block

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    To be let go at this point of the season is kind of a red flag. Could be injuries are still an issue or perhaps he got all lazy again after the contract. Who knows this guy isn't worth the time though.

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    As someone who has seen Mike Williams play quite a bit here in Seattle I will tell you that this guy has lost it.

    He doesn't have the work ethic to be good. He showed up two years ago wanting to prove something with the Seahawks and he did for the first few weeks of the season. Then he got his money and disappeared.

    Signing him would be no better than signing Josh Reed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by house23 View Post
    Bringing in more talent and competition never makes you worse.. Ever.

    Bottom Line..
    You can argue that the guys we already have would compete harder and more successful then Williams will. And I believe that statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaw66 View Post
    Why doesn't it fly? Whether you've heard of three Seahawks receivers or none, their roster is loaded (by your admission) by lots of no-names. And for some reason, Mike Williams's college coach and the ONLY coach he's ever had any success with in the pros wants those no-names instead of Mike Williams.

    How do you like the job Buddy Nix has done in two and a half years? You think he's an idiot or you think he's done a pretty good job? Name ONE guy with a resume like Mike Williams's whom Nix has signed. Nix signs quality men who have shown the discipline and work ethic to be long-term successes.

    Why do think the Seahawks cut Williams without even getting to camp? I'll give you the most likely answers: (1) Failure to control his weight to team specified limits. (2) Failure to recover from last season's injury. (3) Unknown (to us) off-field bahaviors.

    What's your explanation? That the Seahawks went through OTAs and concluded (1) Mike Williams is clearly an NFL starter but (2) they have eight other wideouts who are better? Come on. He's gone because a team that was 22nd in the league in total yards passing and 23rd in receptions can't see any way Williams could help them get better. Well, the Bills were 10th in receptions and 15th in yards, and they have TWO really good young prospects in camp.

    It just amazes me that you guys think Mike Williams is an answer.
    You make some great points - I was a huge Mike Williams fan coming out of college - I had watched him dominate very good DBs week after week and thought he would do the same in the pros. He had 30 TDs in two years in college against very good DBs - I thought he was a can't miss guy and told people as much

    Problem is the gray muscle between the ears turned out to be defective - no work ethic, almost, no actually ate his way out of football. His college coach rehabilitates him and he has one good year. He gets injured and like you said, he most likely did not meet weight and fitness standards for the team and if he did not do that for a guy that picked him up after being out of football for years, why do you think he would do it for the Bills?

    He certainly has more talent that most of our WRs but if all it took was talent to play this game, 90% of WRs would never bust - but they do in droves because you have to be smart and disciplined to be a good-great WR. The greatest WR of all time was not the most talented but he was the hardest worker and one of the brightest to ever play the position. If Williams worked half as hard as Jerry Rice, he would have been a pro-bowler multiple times. But he did not and evidently will not.

    He would have to come in and blow us away with his fitness and his interview to even remotely consider him to take reps from one of the guys we have here already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmoorman4jesus View Post
    If you have a name or have done something in the League, BBMB is too good for you.

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    To the extent that this is a debate that other people are reading with interest to see who makes sense and who doesn't, you just lost.
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    His size alone should garner him an opportunity. He would be a great Red Zone threat if nothing else. He'll sign with a team relatively quickly. If the team was interested in Gordon who also had character flaws, atleast the team has seen what Williams can do in the NFL in a mediocre offense in Seattle and Detroit. He did very well in 2010.

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    Our WRs are not good enough. If we dont add a guy, (like a M. Williams) we wont score enough to beat the physical defenses. When that happens, Il bring this post back up, like I did with my old Fitz threads. Then everyone will backtrack and blame the QB or injuries. We need more playmakers at WR

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmoorman4jesus View Post
    Our WRs are not good enough. If we dont add a guy, (like a M. Williams) we wont score enough to beat the physical defenses. When that happens, Il bring this post back up, like I did with my old Fitz threads. Then everyone will backtrack and blame the QB or injuries. We need more playmakers at WR
    Please explain to me how Mike williams is a playmaker in the NFL. Not in College. In the NFL. He hasn't been a playmaker in 7 years.
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    I would rather have some of our guys going into there 3rd year to play before we grab some slop bucket.

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