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    Quote Originally Posted by clermontbillsfan View Post
    Bottom line is the majority of readers on here disagree with your poor assesment, that they are not on the same page based on last night's preseason play. Last night's game does not reflect in any way that Gailey and Nix arent on the SAme Page, Lets end the discussion there.
    What about CJ, and the 3-4 disagreement? They can't agree on everything, and Buddy does the drafting he has made that clear!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb_bound View Post
    I brought this up last year and was completely chastized for doing so. It doesn't seem like Nix and Gailey are completely on the same page when it comes to adding talent to this team. Nix has spent the past 3 years bringing in bigger and bigger offensive linemen to the point where we probably have the biggest offensive line in all of football. One would think that this would be the perfect recipe for a smash mouth offense predicated on the run game. The problem is that Gailey has taken this huge offensive line and tried to make them pass blockers. I honestly have no idea what the hell Gailey is doing. We should be running the ball more than 50% of the time. Our offensive line excells in run blocking and struggles mightily in pass protection. Run the darn ball Gailey. Last night was a preview of Gailey's complete insanity. The first team offense didn't run the ball at all. It just doesn't make any sense. If we go into the regular season trying to play this type of spread offense we might as well be resigned to missing the playoffs again this season.
    lolololololol. Did you see how bad our O-line is at run-blocking? This O-Line is not equipped for run blocking like so many of you think. Just watch the games. Or watch the goal-line practice where almost every single play was stuffed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLSFANFORLIFE View Post
    I believe there is a little truth to what your saying. An example would be that Buddy has drafted 3-4 defensive players for the past 2 years, but it seemed like Chan always planned to run a 4-3.
    I disagree. Chan Gailey's first DC was a 3-4 defensive specialist, and Chan announced before he made the hire that he wanted to run a 3-4 defense because it gave the defense more flexibility in attacking the offense, and is harder to prepare for than a 4-3 defense. They ran a lot of 4-3 during the time they were trying to transition to a 3-4 because they didn't have a lot of 304 defensive players on the front 7. Last season, they continued to run a lot of 4-3 because that was one of the areas where the defense was hurt by injuries.

    While our offensive line is big, possibly the biggest in the league, it is also pretty athletic. Gailey's passing game is predicated on spreading the ball out horizontally and the QB making quick reads on a 3 step drop. In that respect, it's a pretty offensive line friendly offense, which accounts for giving up very few sacks last season, even though Fitzpatrick threw a lot of passes.

    It is well known that Fitzpatrick had a terrible slump last season where he threw a lot of interceptions. By now it is also known that he soffered two broken ribs in the Washington game last season tto signiaal the start of that slump. The question we don't have the answer to is how much of the slump is injury related and how much is due to opposing defensive coordinators figuring out how to defense Gailey's offensive scheme. We still don't have an answer, and since teams tend to play close to the vest in preseason, we may not bet the answer until the regular season. I just don't think the offensive line has a lot to do with the struggles that the offense has had, aside from the injuries they dealth with last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVABilliever View Post
    lolololololol. Did you see how bad our O-line is at run-blocking? This O-Line is not equipped for run blocking like so many of you think. Just watch the games. Or watch the goal-line practice where almost every single play was stuffed.
    I think we are good run blocking team when we have Wood, levitre, Urbik , and Pears healthy. The wild card is Glenn and Hairston

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    George Edwards is not a 3-4 specialist. Before he came here he had one year as a Cordinator and that year he ran a 4-3 defense. He didn't have clue about the 3-4 defense so he mostly ran a 4-3 while he was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indybillsfan View Post
    I went back and re-read and I think I misconstrued comments intended for sb for me. My apologies for being cranky. And to you as well, sb. Tend to get cranky when I'm out of town away from the family. But really, sb, relax; I do think they'll run more this year, like they did beginning of last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ View Post
    I disagree. Chan Gailey's first DC was a 3-4 defensive specialist, and Chan announced before he made the hire that he wanted to run a 3-4 defense because it gave the defense more flexibility in attacking the offense, and is harder to prepare for than a 4-3 defense. They ran a lot of 4-3 during the time they were trying to transition to a 3-4 because they didn't have a lot of 304 defensive players on the front 7. Last season, they continued to run a lot of 4-3 because that was one of the areas where the defense was hurt by injuries.

    While our offensive line is big, possibly the biggest in the league, it is also pretty athletic. Gailey's passing game is predicated on spreading the ball out horizontally and the QB making quick reads on a 3 step drop. In that respect, it's a pretty offensive line friendly offense, which accounts for giving up very few sacks last season, even though Fitzpatrick threw a lot of passes.

    It is well known that Fitzpatrick had a terrible slump last season where he threw a lot of interceptions. By now it is also known that he soffered two broken ribs in the Washington game last season tto signiaal the start of that slump. The question we don't have the answer to is how much of the slump is injury related and how much is due to opposing defensive coordinators figuring out how to defense Gailey's offensive scheme. We still don't have an answer, and since teams tend to play close to the vest in preseason, we may not bet the answer until the regular season. I just don't think the offensive line has a lot to do with the struggles that the offense has had, aside from the injuries they dealth with last season.
    Seems to me that the offensive scheme was developed for Fitz to make quick decisions based around both his playing style and the weaknesses of the line. The offensive slump really commenced once the starting linemen/receivers began going down and opposing defenses figured out to jam the remaining receivers at the line. Fitz's rib injury, while certainly a contributing factor, happened after the slump had really began.

    If I recall correctly, once the line got somewhat stabilized and Fitz had healed up somewhat, the offense improved.

    Quote Originally Posted by BILLSFANFORLIFE View Post
    George Edwards is not a 3-4 specialist. Before he came here he had one year as a Cordinator and that year he ran a 4-3 defense. He didn't have clue about the 3-4 defense so he mostly ran a 4-3 while he was here.
    It wasn't so much the scheme or players, but Edwards sucking as a DC that doomed the defense, especially last year. The lack of talent certainly didn't help, but I think Edwards was the main culprit. When players are consistently out of position or don't know where they need to be, that's a coaching issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koko78 View Post
    Seems to me that the offensive scheme was developed for Fitz to make quick decisions based around both his playing style and the weaknesses of the line. The offensive slump really commenced once the starting linemen/receivers began going down and opposing defenses figured out to jam the remaining receivers at the line. Fitz's rib injury, while certainly a contributing factor, happened after the slump had really began.

    If I recall correctly, once the line got somewhat stabilized and Fitz had healed up somewhat, the offense improved.



    It wasn't so much the scheme or players, but Edwards sucking as a DC that doomed the defense, especially last year. The lack of talent certainly didn't help, but I think Edwards was the main culprit. When players are consistently out of position or don't know where they need to be, that's a coaching issue.
    Great point made KOKO! I agree with you.

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