Thank god we ran Perry Fewell out of town.

[pot_dragon]

Remember when he was our D coordinator, then got our team fired up and led a late season rejuvenation as interim HC.....then was given a token HC interview then promptly told to GTFO. Gee, he went on to really suck as the Giants D coordinator, and our team defense improved incredibly. Thank goodness we pulled that move off.

[MadBillsFan]

Not until Ralph dies.

[GoldenWheels]

Guy yells on the sideline a few times and he's a good coach. Good to know!

[DarylLamonica]

Guy yells on the sideline a few times and he's a good coach. Good to know!

You have identified he #1 attribute of a great coach as defined by the BBMB.

[HOTDOG]

Guy yells on the sideline a few times and he's a good coach. Good to know!

I think most folks just want to see some passion out of the head coach at this point. Someone to give the team a bit of an attitude.

The fact that he has a ring doesn't hurt either.

At this point, I'm ready to see a change myself.

[GoldenWheels]

You have identified he #1 attribute of a great coach as defined by the BBMB.

Right? I mean, ****, I loved him yelling when we were running it up on the Fins too. After DJ ball it was a breath of fresh air. But he was no great shakes his first year in NY, has tons of talent there so he SHOULD succeed, and just never showed much here....and it's not as if he didn't have time, at least on D. His D largely stunk.

Now I could be convinced he might have been better by this point than Chan. But that is saying nothing really.

[GoldenWheels]

I think most folks just want to see some passion out of the head coach at this point. Someone to give the team a bit of an attitude.

The fact that he has a ring doesn't hurt either.

At this point, I'm ready to see a change myself.

He should have that ring inscribed with the names of his D-line!

I don't think the guy was a BAD coach....but if the idea is that we missed out on something....meh. Total conjecture and I don't put much to it based on what he did in NY with one of the best D lines/pass rush in football.

[DarylLamonica]

Right? I mean, ****, I loved him yelling when we were running it up on the Fins too. After DJ ball it was a breath of fresh air. But he was no great shakes his first year in NY, has tons of talent there so he SHOULD succeed, and just never showed much here....and it's not as if he didn't have time, at least on D. His D largely stunk.

Now I could be convinced he might have been better by this point than Chan. But that is saying nothing really.

His first year there was MAJOR discontent about him as D coordinator, there was talk about him getting canned and then the Giants D turned it around and ended the year on a hot streak. As D Coordinator here he was maybe average, he had a bend dont break D, it was actually painful to watch, teams marched down the field at will but did tighten up in the red zone. His D was below average but rarely got blown out, I will give him credit for that, mostly because he allowed extremely long time consuming drives.

[Stinger]

Why not? Or were you just being ironic?



There was outrage about taking an excellent QB prospect? Crikey!

Yes & from some of the darlings of the Message Board. Dumb was a frequent word used 2 describe him. You actually can't even bring up TJs name instant put downs(Like Fitz has us clicking) VY despite his winning record as a starting QB 4 whatever reason was always shot down. I don't even care how we win I just want to win. Something is fundamentally wrong with this organization.

[pot_dragon]

Right? I mean, ****, I loved him yelling when we were running it up on the Fins too. After DJ ball it was a breath of fresh air. But he was no great shakes his first year in NY, has tons of talent there so he SHOULD succeed, and just never showed much here....and it's not as if he didn't have time, at least on D. His D largely stunk.

Now I could be convinced he might have been better by this point than Chan. But that is saying nothing really.

His defenses stunk? in 09 our pass defense was 2nd overall. Our run defense sucked....which is why we spent the past 3 years shoring up our DL. And he has TONS of talent there so he SHOULD succeed? What about Wannstedt and our D line then? What about our Oline and CJ, who still leads the league in YPR? Thats a BS argument that he has talent so he SHOULD succeed.

If we had kept Fewell as head coach and brought in Gailey as O Coordinator, we would be light years ahead of where we are.

[GoldenWheels]

His first year there was MAJOR discontent about him as D coordinator, there was talk about him getting canned and then the Giants D turned it around and ended the year on a hot streak. As D Coordinator here he was maybe average, he had a bend dont break D, it was actually painful to watch, teams marched down the field at will but did tighten up in the red zone. His D was below average but rarely got blown out, I will give him credit for that, mostly because he allowed extremely long time consuming drives.

I'll give him the credit too that he was probably doing exactly what DJ wanted. But I do think people forget how average that Giant D looked his first year. I heard that canning talk too on NYC radio. But the talent came through. Lucky for him.

[DarylLamonica]

Great, now Warren Moon is on the BBMB! please enough with race, so tiring. If it had to do with race we wouldn't have had Fewell as the interim coach at all that year.

Or Pitts as the interim head coach when Levy went down, or Marlin Briscoe, first AA to play QB in the NFL or James Harris as our QB but we all know the mantra, Ralph is an old white man, let go of VY, doesnt have a AA HC or starting QB therefore he is a racist.

[Xmus Jaxon Flaxon-Waxon]

This is one of the most unfair and ignorant comments I have read here lately.

Guess you never heard of Marlin Briscoe or James Harris.

James harris? You mean the one guy in bills history to get benched for a Qb with a broken leg after a interception? their is a reason why he was the first and last one to play in a regular season game for the bills.

[HOTDOG]

He should have that ring inscribed with the names of his D-line!

I don't think the guy was a BAD coach....but if the idea is that we missed out on something....meh. Total conjecture and I don't put much to it based on what he did in NY with one of the best D lines/pass rush in football.

His D line was great and he benefited from that. No argument there and good for him for using the talent he had there.

At this point, I would argue that he would be a refreshing change from this ho-hum 5 wide, throw 40 times a game with a noodle armed QB, no passion, "I don't look at the defense" coach.

I would also argue that he would use the talent the Bills have like he did in New Jersey. In this case, Spiller and Jackson and bring some fire to this defense.

[pot_dragon]

He should have that ring inscribed with the names of his D-line!

I don't think the guy was a BAD coach....but if the idea is that we missed out on something....meh. Total conjecture and I don't put much to it based on what he did in NY with one of the best D lines/pass rush in football.

Yeh, Im sure his gameplan has nothing to do with NYG success, especially in that super bowl where they were expected to get blown out by the pats. Thats why the Ginas hired him AS SOON as we dropped him. If talent doesnt need coaching, what is our excuse??

[GoldenWheels]

His defenses stunk? in 09 our pass defense was 2nd overall. Our run defense sucked....which is why we spent the past 3 years shoring up our DL. And he has TONS of talent there so he SHOULD succeed? What about Wannstedt and our D line then? What about our Oline and CJ, who still leads the league in YPR? Thats a BS argument that he has talent so he SHOULD succeed.

If we had kept Fewell as head coach and brought in Gailey as O Coordinator, we would be light years ahead of where we are.

Defense is the one whole side of the ball, not something to be split in two. No one needed to pass on us when they could run all day. And then when they needed to pass, they could do that too.

No, it's not a BS argument that talent should have you succeeding. It's common sense. He inherited probably the best pass rush in football, at a time when pass rush means more than ever.

Wannstedt stinks. Pointing to him just shows how bad he is. It should also show you our talent is not quite as high as many might think it was.

Conjecture, conjecture, conjecture. You've convinced yourself, but I could not care less about that.

[Xmus Jaxon Flaxon-Waxon]

Or Pitts as the interim head coach when Levy went down, or Marlin Briscoe, first AA to play QB in the NFL or James Harris as our QB but we all know the mantra, Ralph is an old white man, let go of VY, doesnt have a AA HC or starting QB therefore he is a racist.

Never said he was a racists. But this city on the other hand.... Why do you think buffalo moved the stadium out to orchard park?

[GoldenWheels]

His D line was great and he benefited from that. No argument there and good for him for using the talent he had there.

At this point, I would argue that he would be a refreshing change from this ho-hum 5 wide, throw 40 times a game with a noodle armed QB, no passion, "I don't look at the defense" coach.

I would also argue that he would use the talent the Bills have like he did in New Jersey. In this case, Spiller and Jackson and bring some fire to this defense.

I think it is very hard to say what he would have done on O. Who would he have brought in as OC (if anyone)? Would he have been aggressive with the run? Would the stage have been too big for him being the real HC? Would he make good gameplans or make good clutch calls on the field? I have no clue honestly. I just didn't see enough of the guy. I just don't buy the idea we missed on something great, that's all.

[DarylLamonica]

Defense is the one whole side of the ball, not something to be split in two. No one needed to pass on us when they could run all day. And then when they needed to pass, they could do that too.

No, it's not a BS argument that talent should have you succeeding. It's common sense. He inherited probably the best pass rush in football, at a time when pass rush means more than ever.

Wannstedt stinks. Pointing to him just shows how bad he is. It should also show you or talent is not quite as high as many might think it was.

Conjecture, conjecture, conjecture. You've convinced yourself, but I could not care less about that.

Everything Goldenwheels posts here is spot on, esp your point about no one needing to pass on us and when they did need to , surprise, they were effective.

[GoldenWheels]

Yeh, Im sure his gameplan has nothing to do with NYG success, especially in that super bowl where they were expected to get blown out by the pats. Thats why the Ginas hired him AS SOON as we dropped him. If talent doesnt need coaching, what is our excuse??

Who said nothing? Nobody but you.