Hypothetical question.....crazy stuff

[Nick Matrix]

Thanks for posting that. Thanks for the credit too.

Isn't it still plausible in the "falling down at the 1" scenario?

[The Wendigo]

Isn't it still plausible in the "falling down at the 1" scenario?

I don't understand your question. Can you be more specific?

[Nick Matrix]

I don't understand your question. Can you be more specific?

Replays show our player would be called down before the goal line. The play is a TD on the field. Chan challenges the play under the guise that he wanted to run more time off the clock and his player was supposed be down before scoring. Therefore the "benefit" would be to have him called short, even if that's not Chan's actual intention at all.

Was that a little clearer? Broke my leg Sunday and the doctor has me hopped up on meds so it may be a little screwy.

[Grundy208]

Isn't it still plausible in the "falling down at the 1" scenario?

Falling down at the 1 scenario likely would only be done inside of 2 minutes where teams don't have challenges anyways. I don't remember a time where a red flag was thrown inside of 2 minutes.

So I am not sure how that would work. I would imagine, for a coach, he would just take the points rather than risk the penalty yards and what not.

(Did I understand your question?)

[Nick Matrix]

Falling down at the 1 scenario likely would only be done inside of 2 minutes where teams don't have challenges anyways. I don't remember a time where a red flag was thrown inside of 2 minutes.

So I am not sure how that would work. I would imagine, for a coach, he would just take the points rather than risk the penalty yards and what not.

(Did I understand your question?)

Well you can claim you want to run clock at any point in the game. What's the official going to say, "No you don't"?

[Grundy208]

Well you can claim you want to run clock at any point in the game. What's the official going to say, "No you don't"?

That's true, so I would imagine it would be up to the other team. Have them decide what the advantage of the play would be. But I don't know what they would do. It doesn't really address that.

But I think it would look horrible for the coach. Greg Schiano would even call it Bush League. Haha.

[The Wendigo]

Replays show our player would be called down before the goal line. The play is a TD on the field. Chan challenges the play under the guise that he wanted to run more time off the clock and his player was supposed be down before scoring. Therefore the "benefit" would be to have him called short, even if that's not Chan's actual intention at all.

Was that a little clearer? Broke my leg Sunday and the doctor has me hopped up on meds so it may be a little screwy.

That's really tricky stuff there. I think points are always considered the arbiter of the meaning of "against". Therefore anything that adds points for the other team or subtracts points from you is considered against you and can't be reviewed if you illegally throw the flag. No matter what we "wanted" in that situation, scoring points is a good thing for us, so we couldn't cancel the review.

[AndrewBills]

This is incorrect. You cannot throw the red flag on a non-reviewable play and this is one of those plays. All scoring plays are reviewed, by throwing the flag the Bills would accept the 15 yard penalty and the play becomes non-reviewable. Would be extremely smart if a coach did that.

it becomes non reviewable if it can benefit the team who through the flag. If kubiak threw the flag on that run the refs still would review as it would benefit the lions to have that call reversed. I dont get why people are so confused about this it's pretty simple.