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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7975 View Post
    Did anyone honestly expect any different? I think that if we draft a QB and he makes plays all over the field in TC and in preseason then even Chan would have to put him in. Coaches dont dog their players.
    If we had a running back who made plays all over the field Chan would not dog him....oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7975 View Post
    Did anyone honestly expect any different? I think that if we draft a QB and he makes plays all over the field in TC and in preseason then even Chan would have to put him in. Coaches dont dog their players.
    I dont think Chan will give the rookie any real chance, I see the rookie sitting as #3 while chan makes excuses that hes not ready while the fans get stuck watching another crappy season of the FitzThig. Chan needs to get fired his love for these two backups and his goofy love comments on Fitz makes me sick I cant deal with another season of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaFitz View Post
    I'm not defending anyone.

    Fitz needs to play better and as I said he missed throws that were there.

    I said I disagreed with Gailey not letting Lindell kick and some of the play calling. I also think Spiller should be getting more touches.

    Johnson isn't above reproach - he's very good at getting off the line but a terrible route runner who has dropped some very catchable balls at key times, got caught from a behind last Sunday and is not a true #1 - a true #1 doesn't get caught from behind - even though he got paid like one.

    As for Lindell - there is nothing wrong with Lindell. He is the most accurate kicker in team history and the Bills opponents average starting position has gotten worse (meaning they are starting closer to their own goal line) since the kickoff specialist has been released. He doesn't decide whether to kick or not and if he did - he would have sent himself out for that FG attempt.



    My point is they are not out of it yet although it's highly unlikely they make the post season. If the players made plays and there were plays there to be made they didn't execute http://wgr550.com/two-bills-drive/14882777 Also, if they had won that game - made one of those plays or the defense had gotten the late stop or the special teams coverage didn't suck again (DeHaven needs to go!!) they are one game out of the WC trailing Pitt and Indy who they would have hadd the head to head over.

    Oh and reality is this team is literally 3 plays from 7-4
    You are an apologist for mediocrity.
    It should be apparent that Fitz cannot play better consistently.
    As for Lindell his range is unfortunately limited.
    As for Johnson, fine lets agree that he is not a route runner if it pleases you to say so even though he gains separation both off the line as well as at the second level and whether facing zone or man coverage and whether the DB is in press or playing off the line. As for his being overpaid most observers wondered whether he should have fired his agent given what lesser FAs were getting at the time. As for his drops, they all have drops. Wes Welker has had a number in recent memory, and Wes is arguably the top tier slot receiver in the game. If Fitz was half the QB that SJ is a receiver we would be in serious contention.
    As for the absurd comment that but for a few plays we would have a much better record, it is a characteristic of many bad teams that they lose a lot of close games. Happens every year to bad teams. I can only remind you of what Tuna has said "You are what your record says you are".
    Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starrymessenger View Post
    You are an apologist for mediocrity.
    It should be apparent that Fitz cannot play better consistently.
    As for Lindell his range is unfortunately limited.
    As for Johnson, fine lets agree that he is not a route runner if it pleases you to say so even though he gains separation both off the line as well as at the second level and whether facing zone or man coverage and whether the DB is in press or playing off the line. As for his being overpaid most observers wondered whether he should have fired his agent given what lesser FAs were getting at the time. As for his drops, they all have drops. Wes Welker has had a number in recent memory, and Wes is arguably the top tier slot receiver in the game. If Fitz was half the QB that SJ is a receiver we would be in serious contention.
    As for the absurd comment that but for a few plays we would have a much better record, it is a characteristic of many bad teams that they lose a lot of close games. Happens every year to bad teams. I can only remind you of what Tuna has said "You are what your record says you are".
    Deal with it.
    Who is apologzing for anything. Just because I'm not over-reactionary and zealous like you and many others on here it doesn't mean I accept what's going on as the best they can do or should do going forward.

    Defending Johnson? Oh and NO ONE thought he should have gotten more money. As for Fitz - again slowly for you - he needs to play better, he missed a few throws that would have made the difference int hat game. At the same time he is the best they have right now and they have to go with him. He's slow and has what? Two 100 yard games in the past two season? Yes they all drop balls but drops at key times to give your team field position or a win - unacceptable for a #1 receiver. He's the most over-rated player on the Bills.

    Lindell won't hit any 60 yard FGs but he's far from mediocre and most definitely could have hit that 52 yarder had Gailey decided to send him out.


    As for the comment - not absurb at all. It very true - 2 plays cost them 2 games earlier this year. it could be said if they hit on the throw to Spiller, Johnson doesn't get caught from behind, or special teams doesn't freaking blow it again they beat the Colts and are sitting one game out of the post season.
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    Well he's not gonna bash him. He already is as bad as he is why would he bash him and ruin any little confidence he has. Think people. I think we take a shot for Vick if he is released that is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaFitz View Post
    Who is apologzing for anything. Just because I'm not over-reactionary and zealous like you and many others on here it doesn't mean I accept what's going on as the best they can do or should do going forward.

    Defending Johnson? Oh and NO ONE thought he should have gotten more money. As for Fitz - again slowly for you - he needs to play better, he missed a few throws that would have made the difference int hat game. At the same time he is the best they have right now and they have to go with him. He's slow and has what? Two 100 yard games in the past two season? Yes they all drop balls but drops at key times to give your team field position or a win - unacceptable for a #1 receiver. He's the most over-rated player on the Bills.

    Lindell won't hit any 60 yard FGs but he's far from mediocre and most definitely could have hit that 52 yarder had Gailey decided to send him out.


    As for the comment - not absurb at all. It very true - 2 plays cost them 2 games earlier this year. it could be said if they hit on the throw to Spiller, Johnson doesn't get caught from behind, or special teams doesn't freaking blow it again they beat the Colts and are sitting one game out of the post season.
    Over reactionary? There is nothing "over reactionary" in saying that both Fitz and Chan have had their opportunity, have come up short and that the team needs to move on, however unfortunate that result may be. It's a legitimate opinion in my view all things considered.
    You really don't get it do you. Of course RF needs to play better. The point is he cannot. This is where it becomes evident that you are nothing more than the alter ego of Cuboirs and DC Billfan.
    As for Johnson there are lots of people who felt he might have done better elsewhere after Pierre Garçon got 42.5 with 20.5 guaranteed and Laurent Robinson got 32 for 5 with 14 guaranteed. Good grief, even Meachem, a guy Buddy wanted and who can't play, got 26 for 4 with 14 guaranteed. Donald Jones is a better and more useful player.
    It is pointless to say that with a little of this and a little of that the Bills would have a better record. Maybe if they don't get lucky in Arizona the have a worse one.
    You are what your record says you are. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaFitz View Post
    I would repsond if I was around after 4 yesterday until now. As for your sensible counter point - this is it for the most part: Does he have to say "Fitz sucks"? Does he have to make him a scapegoat or sacrifice him to the angry mob? NO. Absolutely not.


    Outside of that your opinion of what "good" coach should do is just that - your opinion. Each one handles things in his own way and if it's not the way you think it should be down it doesn't mean that coach is not a good coach. By doing it your way he leaves himself open to daily questions as to when he's going to yank Fitz and questions from his team when we all know he doesn't have another viable option to take over at this time.
    This is SO weak. Is it really that difficult to admit that you were wrong? Wait, nevermind, forgot who I was talking to...

    You try and make it sound like I demanded Chan say those exact words when I did no such thing. You posted 3 or 4 times in a row asking what else he could have said and I gave you a perfectly reasonable response that enforced accountability without throwing Fitz under the bus. I would be satisfied with any response from Chan that showed that he wasn't totally delusional about what he was seeing on the field. I don't expect you to admit it, but that's exactly how his statement made him look: like a delusional old fool.

    So you tell me, which is worse: dealing with questions from the media about when he's going to pull his QB who is obviously underperforming or telling the world something that obviously isn't true and makes him look like an idiot?

    Oh, and if it isn't abundantly clear yet, Fitz is not a viable option, so even if we lose by more points with Thigpen or T-Jack, at least it can't be said he didn't try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaFitz View Post
    Johnson isn't above reproach - he's very good at getting off the line but a terrible route runner who has dropped some very catchable balls at key times, got caught from a behind last Sunday and is not a true #1 - a true #1 doesn't get caught from behind - even though he got paid like one.
    Your hate for Stevie Johnson is utterly unjustified and makes you look ridiculous. A true #1 doesn't get caught from behind? What bull**** is that? So you have to be the fastest guy on the field to be a true #1? Stop making **** up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starrymessenger View Post
    If we had a running back who made plays all over the field Chan would not dog him....oh wait.
    I meant that coaches will not bash their players like fans do. I didnt mean sideline them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wendigo View Post
    Your hate for Stevie Johnson is utterly unjustified and makes you look ridiculous. A true #1 doesn't get caught from behind? What bull**** is that? So you have to be the fastest guy on the field to be a true #1? Stop making **** up.
    Jerry Rice ran a 4.8 at the combine if I remember correctly so his argument is invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenaline View Post
    I dont think Chan will give the rookie any real chance, I see the rookie sitting as #3 while chan makes excuses that hes not ready while the fans get stuck watching another crappy season of the FitzThig. Chan needs to get fired his love for these two backups and his goofy love comments on Fitz makes me sick I cant deal with another season of it.
    Possibility. Only time will tell. If the rookie tears it up in preaseason and donest get a starting chance well... Nothing we can do about but hope what we already hope for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaking Bad View Post
    Jerry Rice ran a 4.8 at the combine if I remember correctly so his argument is invalid.
    It's not an argument, it's a vendetta. It's just shocking how he keeps it going in the face of all logic and sense. You'd think the guy kidnapped his puppy or knocked up his daughter or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaFitz View Post
    I'm not defending anyone.

    Fitz needs to play better and as I said he missed throws that were there.

    I said I disagreed with Gailey not letting Lindell kick and some of the play calling. I also think Spiller should be getting more touches.

    Johnson isn't above reproach - he's very good at getting off the line but a terrible route runner who has dropped some very catchable balls at key times, got caught from a behind last Sunday and is not a true #1 - a true #1 doesn't get caught from behind - even though he got paid like one.

    As for Lindell - there is nothing wrong with Lindell. He is the most accurate kicker in team history and the Bills opponents average starting position has gotten worse (meaning they are starting closer to their own goal line) since the kickoff specialist has been released. He doesn't decide whether to kick or not and if he did - he would have sent himself out for that FG attempt.



    My point is they are not out of it yet although it's highly unlikely they make the post season. If the players made plays and there were plays there to be made they didn't execute http://wgr550.com/two-bills-drive/14882777 Also, if they had won that game - made one of those plays or the defense had gotten the late stop or the special teams coverage didn't suck again (DeHaven needs to go!!) they are one game out of the WC trailing Pitt and Indy who they would have hadd the head to head over.

    Oh and reality is this team is literally 3 plays from 7-4
    You're 100% wrong about Stevie. And #1's dont get caught from behind? Guess what? Reggie Wayne doesn't have a catch over 30 yards! Vincent Jackson got tackled from behind a few weeks ago. Julio Jones was caught from behind by Claiborne.

    Want me to give another half dozen examples of how you are completely wrong about Stevie and have no idea what a #1 WR looks like?

    And your Lindell stats are garbage. He's the most accurate kicker in Bills history! Yet has kicked, what, 1 FG of 50+ yards in 3 years? Doesn;t take a genius to connect the dots there...
    When the Bills hired Jauron and Gailey, the team's misfortunes were 100% predictable. At least Marrone has a chance to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaw66 View Post
    Titzfatprick
    Really Shaw? What is this, Ryan's porno film name? I expect that outta the punk posters around here.

    (Although it is discouraging, I agree there)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCBillsfan View Post
    Gailey is a brilliant offensive mind, and I happen to respect his choice at QB. And that makes me a troll....please
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    Gailey is genuinely infatuated with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I sincerely believe that too. I guess we just have to get rid of both Gailey & Fitz then. What a ****ing joke this all is!!!!

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