Would 9-7 get the Bills in?

[BillsWVUfan]

Worried about the Chargers losing this in final minutes

They probably will, similar to the Colts today.

[Scott7975]

If Pitt and Cincy loses today, we just need Pitt to lose 1 more AFC game and Cincy to just lose a game, period. We also just need a Chargers loss or tie.

Its still a perfect storm. The teams that need losses all play each other. Pitts plays Chargers and Cinci and the Browns. All those teams need losses but Pitts needs to either lose 2 more games, after today, or beat one of the teams that needs a loss. The sooner, the better because Ben isnt going to be out all season. Once Ben comes back, its likely Pitts will win out from that point. I dont forsee Cinci winning out however... Outside of Pitts, The Chargers have Jets, Panthers and the Raiders. Those are all likely wins for them.

So we kinda need Pitts to beat the Chargers or the they will probably sneak in the back door and steal the last spot, even if we win out. I dont think Pitts is going to lose to the browns. That means Pitts has to lose to Cinci because we need them to beat the Chargers. Now what does that say for Cinci? In this senario... Cinci has to beat Pitts. They would have to lose to the Cowboys/Ravens. I doubt they lose to Philly.

It sounds all complicated like that. Maybe Im wrong but I think because its sounds complicated like that.... its because the Bills need a **** mirical to make the playoffs. This is all moot, if Buffalo lose 1 single game.

[wilcoam]

Remember, if you want to theorize the Bills can still make the playoffs with a 9-7 or 8-8 record, fine you're right, mathematically speaking we can, but then so can Pitt, Cinn, Mia, NY, SD, and even Cleveland. With only spot left, I'm not sure how any can surmise our Bills will magically win out or go 4-1, and then also magically beat out all these other teams with similar records, sure we own the tiebreakers vs Cle and Mia but that no longer counts if there are multiple ties which at 9-7 maybe it's one or two teams tied, but at 8-8 it could be a plethora - lol

But yes those still chasing this dream will naturally root for Steelers, Bengals, and Chargers losses tonight

jc

[Squirrel]

Its still a perfect storm. The teams that need losses all play each other. Pitts plays Chargers and Cinci and the Browns. All those teams need losses but Pitts needs to either lose 2 more games, after today, or beat one of the teams that needs a loss. The sooner, the better because Ben isnt going to be out all season. Once Ben comes back, its likely Pitts will win out from that point. I dont forsee Cinci winning out however... Outside of Pitts, The Chargers have Jets, Panthers and the Raiders. Those are all likely wins for them.

So we kinda need Pitts to beat the Chargers or the they will probably sneak in the back door and steal the last spot, even if we win out. I dont think Pitts is going to lose to the browns. That means Pitts has to lose to Cinci because we need them to beat the Chargers. Now what does that say for Cinci? In this senario... Cinci has to beat Pitts. They would have to lose to the Cowboys/Ravens. I doubt they lose to Philly.

It sounds all complicated like that. Maybe Im wrong but I think because its sounds complicated like that.... its because the Bills need a **** mirical to make the playoffs. This is all moot, if Buffalo lose 1 single game.

They both need to lose right now. Thats the point. lol

[gadzod]

Cincy winning today wouldn't be all THAT bad. Dallas can very well beat them, and so can Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

[gadzod]

They both need to lose right now. Thats the point. lol

Cincy doesn't HAVE to lose today. They still have Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Dallas, and Philly. 3 of those 4 teams can beat Cincy.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Cincy doesn't HAVE to lose today. They still have Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Dallas, and Philly. 3 of those 4 teams can beat Cincy.

Agreed, their is sort of two ways to do it. So to Cincy beating the Chager's easier way to do it? Of course the Bill's need to win out.

[gadzod]

Agreed, their is sort of two ways to do it. So to Cincy beating the Chager's easier way to do it? Of course the Bill's need to win out.

Easiest way is San Diego to win, because we're 1 game back.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Easiest way is San Diego to win, because we're 1 game back.

Alright thx got confused a little.

[BillsWVUfan]

Okay so lets circle back and see if everyone is in agreement, under the assumption current results hold (PIT loses, CIB loses)

Cincy sched (currently 6-6, 4-6 AFC)
DAL
@ Phi
@ Pit
BAL

Need a loss to anyone

Pit sched (currently 6-6, 3-6 against the AFC)
SD
@ Dal
CIB
CLE

Need a loss to anyone

SD (5-7, 5-4 vs AFC)
@ Pit
CAR
@ NYJ
OAK

Need a loss to anyone

[Scott7975]

Okay so lets circle back and see if everyone is in agreement, under the assumption current results hold (PIT loses, CIB loses)

Cincy sched (currently 6-6, 4-6 AFC)
DAL
@ Phi
@ Pit
BAL

Need a loss to anyone

Pit sched (currently 6-6, 3-6 against the AFC)
SD
@ Dal
CIB
CLE

Need a loss to anyone

SD (5-7, 5-4 vs AFC)
@ Pit
CAR
@ NYJ
OAK

Need a loss to anyone

No, not to anyone. Conference record plays a part. They could tie that back up depending on who they beat/loss to.

[gadzod]

Okay so lets circle back and see if everyone is in agreement, under the assumption current results hold (PIT loses, CIB loses)

Cincy sched (currently 6-6, 4-6 AFC)
DAL
@ Phi
@ Pit
BAL

Need a loss to anyone

Pit sched (currently 6-6, 3-6 against the AFC)
SD
@ Dal
CIB
CLE

Need a loss to anyone

SD (5-7, 5-4 vs AFC)
@ Pit
CAR
@ NYJ
OAK

Need a loss to anyone

Almost. The Pittsburgh one. A loss to anyone will not work. We need them to lose to another AFC team. We are tied with Pitt in conference record and record against common opponents. The next tie breaker is strength of victory. It's easy to say Pitt has us. So, we need to beat them in the first tie breaker, which is conference record.

[gadzod]

No, not to anyone. Conference record plays a part. They could tie that back up depending on who they beat/loss to.

Loss to anyone only works with Cincy and SD. Because nobody left on Cincy's schedule is our common opponent. We have the tie breaker on them.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Almost. The Pittsburgh one. A loss to anyone will not work. We need them to lose to another AFC team. We are tied with Pitt in conference record and record against common opponents. The next tie breaker is strength of victory. It's easy to say Pitt has us. So, we need to beat them in the first tie breaker, which is conference record.

Guessing the Cincy game againest Pit might be the important one if it goes to that and everything happens that way. Cincy in red zone now vs Charger's.

[gadzod]

Guessing the Cincy game againest Pit might be the important one if it goes to that and everything happens that way. Cincy in red zone now vs Charger's.

Cincy already scored.

[brianmoorman4jesus]

Just blew the whole ****ing season! By letting Cin take the lead. Thanks Chargers, mother****er!

[Da'Bills23]

Win out
Steelers drop 2 more
Bengals drop 2 more
Plausible at best

[gadzod]

Just blew the whole ****ing season! By letting Cin take the lead. Thanks Chargers, mother****er!

Not even close. Cincy still has Baltimore, Dallas, and Pittsburgh......Now if Baltimore loses, then it's bleak.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Cincy already scored.

Yeah using NFL.com one pretty slow and off a bit.

[Capt.Midnite]

As others have pointed out, Cincy can win and we are still more or less fine.

If the Ravens can't take out a Steelers team lead by Charlie ****ing Batch... that is another matter all together.