Monday Qb Club...Nix Statment

[intimidatortj]

Well I think they sign a LBer and possibly a WR...I still believe we draft a QB in rd 1, either trading up to get a guy we really like or staying out and hoping the guy they want is there...If the Bills look to trade up look to Oakland, they are in rebuild mode and are without a 2nd rd pick, they'll likely be the team looking to move down of the teams in the top 5

Buddy won't draft a QB in the top 10 of the draft. Our best hope is that Buddy trades back into the 15-25 range and drafts a QB late 1st round, and then has an extra pick to play with

[D'love]

To see wide receiver on that list is pretty interesting.

I would have thought that with the progression of Graham and Donald Jones that he would have thought we were good at receiver but I'm glad he doesn't think so. I still believe that, if re-signed, Jones and Nelson are nothing more than 3rd or 4th receivers on most good offenses. I'd love to see a Justin Hunter in a Bills uni next year.

I imagine that they're both one type of receiver he wants. But, he loves big scary possession guys too. He's seemed to follow the same philosophy that he used in SD, he wants tall perimeter players. No way was he gonna pass on Gilmore, a 6 foot potential star corner. He wants a VJax type of guy, or at least a Boldin/Bowe type of guy.

[indybillsfan]

I commented earlier I hope Buddy's stance will stop some of the whining about the QB position, and I've been called out for that. With some merit, to be honest. Here's what I think happened. Buddy knows he wants to have a "franchise" QB before he gives the reins to Whaley. But whether we agree or not (and the vast majority don't, me included) Chan and Buddy felt Fitz could be that guy after the big strt last year. So I think that has driven most of his thinking, and he now realizes that it ain't going to be Fitz. That plus his philosophy about building from inside out (which I agree with), and that some of the guys everyone now says he should have drafted haven't really shown themselves to be "franchise" QBs, leaves us where we are: Buddy telling us it's his #1 priority.

And if you look at guys we could have realistically gotten, only one guy, Dalton,to me will be a guy that's around a while. Maybe WIlson, Kaepernick it's too early, Luck and Griffin we were never in play for, and others like Foles, Mallett, Weedon, etc, etc there's either no data at all on or so limited data that no one knows if they'll be a player in the league yet.

[Joe Fan]

The Bills haven't beaten a team that has a winning record this season. Its far from clear that "the foundation" is in place. Its literally impossible to have missed the playoffs more than 3 out of 3 seasons with Nix/Gailey. So I am not at all sure why getting a good QB to develop for those years would have "set the franchise back". The reality seems to be that the Bills plan to draft someone at QB, not to play next year, and try to sell the fans on the idea that Fitz is helping "
groom" the new QB. (BTW does anyone think Alex Smith gave a rats *** about grooming CK). The the following season we will be told how we need to be patient with a QB as a first year starter.

[TigerJ]

nix was asked at the Monday qb club what the bills top priorities are in the off season.

his response was in this order was:
A future franchise QB...called Fitz serviceable.
Wide receiver-legit threat to couple with Stevie
Linebacker- a game changer 3 down linebacker

said he wanted to build both lines before bringing in a rookie Qb so he's set up for success. Coupling that with a dominant running game.

I'm excited they could get a solid prospect. geno smith to me is a perfect fit. Not sure we sniff him though.

The QB crop this season is very difficult to get a handle on, given the lack of can't lose prospects like RGIII and Andrew Luck from the 2012 draft. Most draftniks have KC picking a QB, but I've seen mockers projecting Matt Barkley to go ahead of Geno Smith almost as often as the other way around. I've even seen a mock where Alex McCarron goes #1 overall. And yes, I've seen a few recent mocks projecting Geno Smith to the Bills. I don't think that's the most likely outcome of the draft, but you never know. I also like E J Manuel to the Bills in round 2.

[DCBillsfan]

This front office is far from giving up on Fitz....had TJ run the right pattern against the Pats, and the defense stood its ground against a pedestrian Titans offense, this team is 7-5 at this point. You do not give up on a guy who is a play or two away of putting your team in playoff contention, especially considering the horrific defense of the first seven games. To throw a rookie in the fire would only set this team back. The playoffs are a very real possibility in 2013. This front office knows it, and they will play it smart and stick with Fitz.

[Jer]

Nix has come here to rebuild the Bills. Like he's paraphrased before, "you can't build Rome in a day." I'm sure he said those exact words. Anyway, he set out to build up the D and O line, and has done so effectively. This is the first time in a long time the Bills have had a good D and O line. Hell, it's the first time since the 90's that we've had a solid line at all...and it's only going to improve.

Nix has been doing everything right so far. People don't realize that a team like this takes years to rebuild. There's so much time involved with coaching players and drafting the right ones at the right times.

[ericwoodsfan]

If they don't get a bona fide WR to pair with Stevie, it will be the 3rd year that I have been touting their weakness, their achilles heel. Each year the need for such has always hit clueless Chan in the butt. I surely hope that Buddy finally realizes the need. Better WRs would make Fitz a better backup QB.

[eregitano]

My hunch is the Bills will take a QB in the first. Its time for them to get their QB. Remeber Jim Kelly was taken right where the Bills will pick. In fact they drafted a tight end before Jim Kelly in the first round that year. They can surely get a franchise QB around the 12th pick. They clearly like the mobile strong armed guys. THat's why I think Geno might be their guy. We shall see.

I have been thinking since Gailey got here that Dwayne Bowe is their guy once he become available. Could you imagine Bowe with Stevie, Spiller, FJ, and Chandler. A rookie QB would be set up just fine.

[mrr0622]

Here's a good question, if cousins was in this draft instead of last year what round would he mostly likely have been picked? I think it would have been much higher than the 4th.

I watched Cousins in college. I don't get the hype.

[The Fun Police]

honestly, I will believe it when I see it. They have said all the same things before, with when it comes to QB, there is ALWAYS some reason why it didn't work out

Any solid prospect will have plenty of interested teams, and the Bills do not seem to very creative or willing to pay the price to get their guy in the draft... look where Locker was drafted, NOBODY expected that. You cannot just sit back and expect a good prospect to drop to the 2nd round just because that's where you "graded him."

If you want the guy, make sure you get him.

[Elminster]

My hunch is the Bills will take a QB in the first. Its time for them to get their QB. Remeber Jim Kelly was taken right where the Bills will pick. In fact they drafted a tight end before Jim Kelly in the first round that year. They can surely get a franchise QB around the 12th pick. They clearly like the mobile strong armed guys. THat's why I think Geno might be their guy. We shall see.

I have been thinking since Gailey got here that Dwayne Bowe is their guy once he become available. Could you imagine Bowe with Stevie, Spiller, FJ, and Chandler. A rookie QB would be set up just fine.

Having Stevie Johnson and Dwayne Bowe would make our offense an utter nightmare for opposing defenses. Throw in Graham and Nelson in the slot, and you have an endless array of ways for us to create match-up issues for even the best defenses.

I, at least, am very much in the nature&nurture camp on quarterbacks. While it is true that some quarterbacks are simply so good out-of-the-box they're virtually fated to succeed, and some so bad that they're doomed to implode, I think most fall in the middle. If David Carr had had the benefit of a league-average offensive line instead of one of the worst offensive lines ever, could he have succeeded? Maybe, but, either way, he probably wouldn't suffer from the quarterbacking equivalent of PTSD. If you can land some one like Luck or RG3, you're probably set, but, realistically, you probably aren't going to get the opportunity. You're going to end up with a guy that needs to do a lot of learning and a lot of growing, and he's not going to do it if he has no one to throw to and has three seconds to throw when he's learning how to read NFL defenses. It's a recipe for failure.

[Thurmanator3434]

honestly, I will believe it when I see it. They have said all the same things before, with when it comes to QB, there is ALWAYS some reason why it didn't work out

You cannot just sit back and expect a good prospect to drop to the 2nd round just because that's where you "graded him."

If you want the guy, make sure you get him.

Great points...I hate the "graded" mindset too. I think best player available is a valid argument for the Top 5-8, but after that it becomes more about need and fit then the best player..with many teams just saying "oh he was the best player there"...why would a team that just drafted a guy say there were better players but we wanted you...talk about knocking someone's ego down a rung or two. Your example of Locker is perfect...Titans said "That is our guy" and got him.

[mrr0622]

Great points...I hate the "graded" mindset too. I think best player available is a valid argument for the Top 5-8, but after that it becomes more about need and fit then the best player..with many teams just saying "oh he was the best player there"...why would a team that just drafted a guy say there were better players but we wanted you...talk about knocking someone's ego down a rung or two. Your example of Locker is perfect...Titans said "That is our guy" and got him.

They are probably regretting that decision now.

[eregitano]

Having Stevie Johnson and Dwayne Bowe would make our offense an utter nightmare for opposing defenses. Throw in Graham and Nelson in the slot, and you have an endless array of ways for us to create match-up issues for even the best defenses.

I, at least, am very much in the nature&nurture camp on quarterbacks. While it is true that some quarterbacks are simply so good out-of-the-box they're virtually fated to succeed, and some so bad that they're doomed to implode, I think most fall in the middle. If David Carr had had the benefit of a league-average offensive line instead of one of the worst offensive lines ever, could he have succeeded? Maybe, but, either way, he probably wouldn't suffer from the quarterbacking equivalent of PTSD. If you can land some one like Luck or RG3, you're probably set, but, realistically, you probably aren't going to get the opportunity. You're going to end up with a guy that needs to do a lot of learning and a lot of growing, and he's not going to do it if he has no one to throw to and has three seconds to throw when he's learning how to read NFL defenses. It's a recipe for failure.

could not agree more.

[adrenaline]

Until OBD gets a QB that can make a difference nothing else matters. Fans were promised by Ralph himself when Trent was released that Nix would get us a guy and sadly 3 seasons later we still have DJs backup. I will lose complete hope on Nix if something big doesn't happen this off season with the QBs.