Sanchez starting again, does this help the Bills in the playoff hunt?

[Otishawk]

I'm not really sure what is going on in NYJ, but they are going to stick with Sanchez at Jax. Its probably a safer option on paper than going with the new guy Mcelroy or an uncertain Tebow. Dropping Sanchez would give the impression they were completely giving up on the season and testing out Mac or Tebow for next year. Of course, this could all be mind tricks from Rex, and he'll pull Sanchez after the first half or first series.

But the Jets will likely win at Jacksonville no matter who starts for them. There last 4 games are easier than the Bills 4 games.

It would be funny though if the Jets lost here on out because of Sanchez poor play and continuing to start him.

Sanchez was a good game manager but he's hit his ceiling.

I think Fitz is a little better than Sanchez. But both throw too many picks.

The Bills are NOT in the playoff hunt!

Neither are the Jets.

Enough is enough.

[Marshawn-2-the-housee]

the jets dont matter. we play them so its all about cincy and pitt losing and unfortunately they both won last week

[vegasloveforthebills]

Kurt was actually on his 4th team..GB..StL..NYG..Arz

But the odd thing about his career is that the first 3 teams all had legit reasons for letting him go.

GB had Favre in his prime.

StL had Bulger who was putting up Warner type numbers after Warner got hurt.

NYG had Manning.

He was a journeyman QB just out of bad circumstances.

No disagreement, but still technically a journeyman. But really Pennington, Garcia and Cassell are better examples. I was just showing that playoffs are attainable, even with a journeyman.

Heck, I didnt even count Brad Johnson in this discussion

[Bob Fraples]

No disagreement, but still technically a journeyman. But really Pennington, Garcia and Cassell are better examples. I was just showing that playoffs are attainable, even with a journeyman.

Heck, I didnt even count Brad Johnson in this discussion

No disagreement about your main point. Journeymen QBs lead their teams to playoffs(and beyond) every year.

However, I wouldn't put Pennington as a jorneyman QB..he played his whole career with the Jets..then was replaced with a top 5 QB in NFL history..and moved on. Would Joe Montana be considered a journeyman QB when he led the Chiefs to the playoffs?? How about Peyton Manning this year??

Same with Cassel..he will most likely end up a jorneyman QB..but the only reason he was traded in the first place was because the Patriots had Tom Brady. Is Matt Schaub considered a journeyman QB because he was good enough to start almost anywhere except for the team who drafted him?

Jeff Garcia and Brad Johnson are good examples, IMO...

but I would add players like Rich Gannon, Tommy Maddox, Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Doug Flutie before Pennington and Cassel.

I don't consider a journeyman QB someone who is playing on their second team in their career..especially when his first team had an all pro at the position.

[vegasloveforthebills]

No disagreement about your main point. Journeymen QBs lead their teams to playoffs(and beyond) every year.

However, I wouldn't put Pennington as a jorneyman QB..he played his whole career with the Jets..then was replaced with a top 5 QB in NFL history..and moved on. Would Joe Montana be considered a journeyman QB when he led the Chiefs to the playoffs?? How about Peyton Manning this year??

Same with Cassel..he will most likely end up a jorneyman QB..but the only reason he was traded in the first place was because the Patriots had Tom Brady. Is Matt Schaub considered a journeyman QB because he was good enough to start almost anywhere except for the team who drafted him?

Jeff Garcia and Brad Johnson are good examples, IMO...

but I would add players like Rich Gannon, Tommy Maddox, Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Doug Flutie before Pennington and Cassel.

I don't consider a journeyman QB someone who is playing on their second team in their career..especially when his first team had an all pro at the position.

I actually debated 2 teams to be honest with you. So I understand your point. I included Cassell, because, I really do believe he will end up on more than 2 teams. So will be classified a journeyman. Also, he is one of the few current NFL qbs, even Fitz's most ardent haters believe Fitz is a better qb than.

I usually claim a journeyman is 3 or more teams, and I thought Pennington went to a 3rd team. He didnt, I just googled it. So he probably shouldnt be on the list.

And of course you brought up some great examples too.

[LINDA_D]

No disagreement about your main point. Journeymen QBs lead their teams to playoffs(and beyond) every year.

However, I wouldn't put Pennington as a jorneyman QB..he played his whole career with the Jets..then was replaced with a top 5 QB in NFL history..and moved on. Would Joe Montana be considered a journeyman QB when he led the Chiefs to the playoffs?? How about Peyton Manning this year??

Same with Cassel..he will most likely end up a jorneyman QB..but the only reason he was traded in the first place was because the Patriots had Tom Brady. Is Matt Schaub considered a journeyman QB because he was good enough to start almost anywhere except for the team who drafted him?

Jeff Garcia and Brad Johnson are good examples, IMO...

but I would add players like Rich Gannon, Tommy Maddox, Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Doug Flutie before Pennington and Cassel.

I don't consider a journeyman QB someone who is playing on their second team in their career..especially when his first team had an all pro at the position.

I agree mostly. I would add that if a QB is with the same team but doesn't do all that well, he is certainly probably "journeyman quality" even before he actually becomes a "journeyman". I think Alex Smith fits this. He played pretty mediocre football for his entire career, and was close to losing his starting job if he didn't actually lose it at least once, until 2011 when Harbaugh came on the scene. Like Cassel in NE, Smith seems to be more a product of the system he's in than being actually good, so I suspect that if he leaves SF that he'll revert to his old mediocre self.

[Big B]

I fully understand the "hope" argument, but sooner or later you have to face reality, this team is not good.

Playoff teams do not have a journeyman at QB, playoff teams do not lose home games to easy teams like Tennessee. Playoff teams do not blow 14 point leads in must win division games...at home. Playoff teams do not choke in other must win divisional games (@NE) and come up short in the 4th chance they get to save their season (@IND).

Playoff teams do not have a 94 year old owner who doesn't hold any of his employees accountable.

The Bills are not a playoff team. I am a very optimistic fan, but I am also a rational one.

What do any of those things have to do with the Bills winning the next 4 games? Maybe we aren't a very good team, but neither are the rest of the teams on our schedule besides maybe Seattle.
The odds of us making the playoffs, mathematically, are already very low. But how could you call yourself optimistic and rational if you are going to take it a step further by listing off a bunch of poor qualities of our team that really have nothing at all to do with the next four games we play? An optimistic fan would say that we certainly are capable of beating the next 4 teams (NOT saying we will beat them, just saying we are capable), however the rational side of you would say that we would still need a ton of help from the teams in front of us. You are not optimistic, and your post was not rational.

[LABILLBACKER]

.....how can Sanchize & the Jets help us when they don't play the Colts, Bengals or Steelers.....?

[The EJ,CJ,TJ Connection]

What do any of those things have to do with the Bills winning the next 4 games? Maybe we aren't a very good team, but neither are the rest of the teams on our schedule besides maybe Seattle.
The odds of us making the playoffs, mathematically, are already very low. But how could you call yourself optimistic and rational if you are going to take it a step further by listing off a bunch of poor qualities of our team that really have nothing at all to do with the next four games we play? An optimistic fan would say that we certainly are capable of beating the next 4 teams (NOT saying we will beat them, just saying we are capable), however the rational side of you would say that we would still need a ton of help from the teams in front of us. You are not optimistic, and your post was not rational.

The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. The first 12 games we have played this year have everything to do with the last 4, due to what I just mentioned. I beg to differ with not being rational, I would say that the statement I started this post is one of the most rational ways to go about life. Any other way to think about this team winning out is blind faith.

[The EJ,CJ,TJ Connection]

What do any of those things have to do with the Bills winning the next 4 games? Maybe we aren't a very good team, but neither are the rest of the teams on our schedule besides maybe Seattle.
The odds of us making the playoffs, mathematically, are already very low. But how could you call yourself optimistic and rational if you are going to take it a step further by listing off a bunch of poor qualities of our team that really have nothing at all to do with the next four games we play? An optimistic fan would say that we certainly are capable of beating the next 4 teams (NOT saying we will beat them, just saying we are capable), however the rational side of you would say that we would still need a ton of help from the teams in front of us. You are not optimistic, and your post was not rational.

Only in Buffalo, a franchise with accountability problems would a fan make the statement that...what does the past 75% of the season have to do with the remaining 25%. The answer is a lot. Based on your argument, if we were 0-12 you would say we have a good chance to win out because the past 12 games is no indication of how we might play this Sunday. Are you kidding me?

[Bob Fraples]

Only in Buffalo, a franchise with accountability problems would a fan make the statement that...what does the past 75% of the season have to do with the remaining 25%. The answer is a lot. Based on your argument, if we were 0-12 you would say we have a good chance to win out because the past 12 games is no indication of how we might play this Sunday. Are you kidding me?

If the next 4 games were against 1-11 teams I would say we have a good shot.