I'll take wins over higher draft picks any day. You don't build a winning culture by losing. If this team can consistently go 9-7 every year, we'll be in the playoffs eventually. The NYG were 9-7 the first year they won it.
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I'll take wins over higher draft picks any day. You don't build a winning culture by losing. If this team can consistently go 9-7 every year, we'll be in the playoffs eventually. The NYG were 9-7 the first year they won it.
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....how refreshing it would be to have a winning season at 9-7 even if we do land 1 game out of the playoffs....I think this team realizes how much talent they have and that they hugely underachieved in the 1st half.....if we had won even 2 of the Jets, NE, Titans, Colts games I think we would've had the 10 win season so many predicted....I still have serious concerns about Gailey, Wannstedt & Fitz???
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Definitely 9-7. Losing breeds losing whereas winning out will carry forward to next year, especially with the young guys we have.
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This thread has brought out an extraordinary number of narrow-minded nut jobs. There's this thing called "losing the battle & winning the war." I don't care about draft position, but i'm far beyond the point of believing in chan & fitz. If we're already not making the playoffs & 5-11 is what it takes to get change around here, so be it. Seriously, how many games have we won because chan outcoached the opposition? Zero?
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Yup^^ This^.Originally Posted by cspinner
Those FA's might be swayed by billiieving we are one player from winning...him,whom ever he may be.
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There's also this thing called "winning the battle & winning the war"
See what I did there?
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Again, how do you know change happens at 5-11? I dont know it will, and neither do you.
What I would like to see is: What do the oddsmakers have the Bills going 9-7 at, and what are the odds they go 5-11. Show them together, because my guess, and its only a guess, is that the odds right now are about the same, or maybe even in the favor of winning, because 3 of the 4 remaining games are "home" games.
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Not really.
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Um, when did i say that i was sure that 5-11 would get chan fired? That didn't happen. Do you really think that going 5-11 instead of 9-7 doesn't increase the chances?
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Exactly. I haven't even read further than this response b/c it's all that needs to be said. The draft will be the draft. I'm tired of worrying about the draft. Let's get a winning record for once. At least that way we have something to build on for next year. A 9-7 record at this point would be a very nice finish and we'd go into the off season with momentum. As silly as that sounds it's not a bad thing. I'm sure they'd come out much stronger next season knowing that they went down swinging. Not many teams will get to finish their season on a Win. All but one playoff team will finish on a Win. Then a couple of the non playoff teams may get out of the season on a Win. I'd like to go 9-7 regardless of what happens with the playoffs.
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You said 5-11 is what it takes to get change. If I misinterpreted, I apologize.
Just to my point though. I saw the odds of the BIlls getting to 9-7 and making the playoffs at 24.7%. Listening to Buddys speak last week, I would put the odds of them losing 4 and firing Chan/Fitz at lower than 24.7%.
So I am saying, if neither playoffs or chan/fitz being forced out are going to happen, why would you then want to lose to fall to 5-11.
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I said "IF going 5-11 is what it takes..."
You take that word out & it's a totally different meaning. I think the odds of us making the playoffs at 9-7 are pretty slim. I also think that if we made the playoffs, it would be in spite of gailey & not because of him. There's a lot of talent on this team & it's being wasted, imo.
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Agreed, thats why I will admitt I misunderstood.
I agree, playoffs are slim. But the way I look at it, if the odds are the same as playoffs or firing, I will root for the slim chance at playoffs, than the same odds of a firing.
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9-7 for sure, that means we'd have a winning season and possible play-offs, guys would be playing well and have more confidence going into next year regardless. I think it would be a springboard cause half of our problem is getting down when we get behind and expecting to lose. Once that mental wall is broken down and the players expect to win it makes a big difference.
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9-7 all day
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Interesting...........who are you and why would i possibly care.
Can you dig it.
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Easily 9-7. More momentum, better morale, an actual winning season, and let's be honest - if we lose out to the final four teams on our schedule, we have some HUGE issues.
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From 4-12, 6-10, 9-7, showing a two game improvement 2013 11-5, playoffs!
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