But with Barkley USC did put up as many points on Stanford as Oregon did, put up nearly 500 yards and 5 touchdowns against the ducks (and only got 131 yards rushing from his team compared to Oregon who ran for 426 yards). I'm not saying that Barkley was perfect or even that he is the second best QB prospect in this draft but its hard to put the losses squarely on Barkley.
I just don't like guys who play with elite supporting casts.
Reality is that his offensive line was still better than most in college football and USC still has a ton of good running backs who were highly recruited. Then the kicker is that he was throwing to two wide receivers who could start for most NFL teams right now.
Then I look at Barkley the prospect and I don't see anything special about him. Average arm, below average deep ball, decent but not great accuracy and ball placement and minimal mobility. The only thing he really has going for him is his intangibles. He seems to be a good field general but I'm not sure he's the type of player to go to the NFL and succeed immediately because he's going to have to adjust to the throwing windows getting considerable smaller than when he was throwing to Woods and Lee who were mostly being covered by guys who are never going to sniff the NFL.
I like guys who played with nothing around them and still 'looked' good. That's why I like Glennon. No supporting cast whatsoever and he got hit all the time, yet he stood tall in the pocket, went through his progressions and would consistently put the ball on the money regardless how much heat was in his face.
Small school guys are used to throwing into tight windows.
Guys with elite supporting casts around them are not.
I agree Barkley isn't special. Arm doesn't have enough velocity, not big, not fast but I think he could come in and be a good QB. Everyone says Andy Dalton and I think that is a very good comparison. Similar years experience starting, similar size, I like Barkleys arm a bit better and Andy has more mobility. And remember, though Dalton didn't have all star receivers he was in a great scheme, in a bad conference where he didnt have to thread a ton of needles. I do like Barkley's release, his arm really whips around well and I think he is mobile enough and his arm will be ok in the NFL. I would probably rate him a little higher than Glennon just because I think his lack of mobility will get him in trouble in today's NFL. Gotta love that arm though. Again look more into Tyler Wilson, right now he is my #1 qb.
barkley will be a bust dont understand the hype behind this guy.
If this team drafts Barkley, I quit!
His small hands won't cut it here, he's just another oooooverrated USC QB, just like the rest of the losers who can't cut it in the NFL that came before him...
Buffalo Bills, 2000-????: same trailer, different park.
"Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." -- Hubert Humphrey
FYI: NFL Footballs are the same size as the NCAA's....according to Wilson, the official supplier of the NFL since 1941.
The notion that NCAA Division I utilizes two different sizes wasn't even a concept and keep in mind that all of the footballs utilized in each game, are checked in 'pre-game' by an official, before they start the game(s).
It was a vicious rumor that supposedly implicated the equipment manager, according to blogs etc.....no evidence exists, in truth and didn't appease disappointed USC fans, whose season rested on any hint of a defensive presence in maintaining consistent leads Barkley produced at the helm of the preseason #1.
Gotta give him (Barkley) alot of credit for hanging-tough, taking shots from defenses and the media. Period.
Last edited by SWBillzbacker; 12-08-2012 at 06:14 PM.
Solid off-season OBD...."Let's Go Buffalo!!!"
Lastly about Barkley, I find it hard to fault a guy willing to fore-go a guaranteed TOP-10 pick just a year ago....in hopes to lead his team to another NCAA Championship at USC.
It meant something to him to stick it out and certainly anyone who voted for this team pre-season didn't expect the collapse and it truly wasn't for lack of effort on his part.
He had some bad games with talent....yet the majority of the games he had to produce at a high-level just to keep the Trojans in the game(s).
With any and I mean ANY production out of Monte's "Tampa-2" scheme(s)....this team should have had a shot at a title of at least the PAC-12; they put up 50+ on Oregon and still lost, for example.
Seriously....this kid hung tough this year.
In fact, throughout his collegiate career he reminded me of the demeanor/competitiveness of Matt Stafford and pocket-presence of Drew Brees.
Great potential to be a "polished" NFL starter, IMO.
Last edited by SWBillzbacker; 12-08-2012 at 06:33 PM.
Solid off-season OBD...."Let's Go Buffalo!!!"