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Thread: Does anybody really trust Nix making such a pivotal draft pick for this franchise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7975 View Post
    Ive already shown the difference in roster. That speaks for itself. Ignoring what I write is your problem, not mine. For further proof... after the draft last year, almost all the experts said the Bills had one of the best off seasons in the league. You dont get those kind of statements if you have a bad GM.

    Doesnt matter. Im done arguing with your opinions that you exclaim as fact. The next 3 seasons will speak for itself.

    Secondly, I asked you to go on record who you would select in the draft. Ive asked you to talk about a few QBs. You refuse to do so until you hear the experts opinion. Reason you wont? Because you know you cant come back on Nix for his choice if it coincides with yours. Nice escape clause you got going on there. Think about that the next time you call me out.
    2 bad offseasons and one pretty good one does not make a GM good. 16-32 is a reflection of many variables-poor coaching, not enough talent, poor QB play, all of which the blame is laid at the feet of the GM. It's on his watch. Far more proof that Nix is a below average GM than a good one.
    Originally Posted by HiddenInLight
    Then what would we do about our lack of CBs LTs WRs and LBs with no 1sts for the next 4 years and no seconds for the next 3? This team would be SO much worse off if we made that deal. Washington will not make the playoffs in the next 5 years. You can sig that.

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    After 11 pages of the same stuff now, hasn't the question posed by the OP been answered? Some people think Buddy can pick the right QB, some don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jm2009 View Post
    2 bad offseasons and one pretty good one does not make a GM good. 16-32 is a reflection of many variables-poor coaching, not enough talent, poor QB play, all of which the blame is laid at the feet of the GM. It's on his watch. Far more proof that Nix is a below average GM than a good one.
    2 bad off seasons in your opinion. Hiring the wrong coach does not make a bad GM. There were not many candidates in the pool and reguardless of what you think about Chan, he came with as good a resume as any of the people that said they would come here. You point to Frazier earlier... his resume was an interim HC job and an 0-3 record with the team going 3-13 as a coordinator. The following year he went 3-13 again. Yet after Nix had built the team for 3 years we suddenly have alot more candidates interested in the job. Thats proof right there that he was a good GM. Poor QB play doesnt mean squat on a GMs shoulders. He had a plan to build a team and get a QB when he felt the team was ready for a rookie to have the best chance of success. He has said that all along. This was a full blown rebuild.... those are the records you see with a full blown rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffeine addict View Post
    DFT indicated this and I trust his comments more than just about every other source.
    Oh, that's interesting. I didn't see that. If DFT said it, then I have to think there's a good chance it's happening. On the other hand, Wheels said that Buddy has refuted it, and gave a link. We'll have to wait and see.

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    GMs lie a lot during the lead-up to drafts.

    It is possible that all of this QB talk is just POSTURING and we are actually NOT interested in QB's in this draft. I do not see any QB's in this draft worthy of a first round selection. I think that a second rounder is a possibility, but IMO that would also be a big mistake.

    I do not know how much Alex Smith would want for a contract, but if affordable, IMO it's a no brainer to sign him to a long term deal. Immediate improvement for the club, and better than any of the draft candidates here....

    I DO trust Nix. He's got a good track record. That RB he selected that EVERYONE ragged on? Well he made the pro bowl this year.....

    So IMO we should be picking LINEBACKER in the first round. There's way more talent in the LB category. I expect Nix to see that, and go for the best linebacker on the board.


    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamsWreckingCrew View Post
    Let's face the reality of the situation here...in just a few short months Buddy Nix is in all likelyhood going to pull the trigger on drafting a QB early in the draft. We are either going to do it #8 overall, with our 2nd round pick, or somewhere in between via trade. This much I'm certain of because you the chances decrease exponentially we'll find one any later.

    The last time we drafted a QB this high was 8 years ago and you can argue that move was a major reason and contributing factor to our current 13 year run of futility. We failed miserable with Losman and reached for a guy that probably shouldn't have been drafted until round 2 at the earliest.

    I know there are many fans that truly believe Nix is a good GM and has improved this roster significantly since his time here. But I'm not one of them and my reasons are simple:

    1) The record doesn't show it compared to the Levy/Brandon regime as GM. And look at some of the players they drafted that Nix traded away or didn't resign who are flourishing elsewhere (i.e. Whitner, Lynch, etc).

    2) He's passed on multiple franchise QB options the last 3 years. The names are well documented.

    3) He kept the previous regimes backup QB as the starter and insisted he was a franchise guy only later to backpeddle.

    So with that said, how can any of us truly believe he's going to get it right this time? Especially in a year which many 'experts' believe there is no clear cut franchise QB available in the first round, or any QB even worth drafting in the first round period.

    Obviously a lot will change between now and April but something just doesn't sit right with me knowing that the fate of this franchise lies in the hands of a man who thought Ryan Fitzpatrick was a franchise QB and gave him a ridiculous extension.

    All we can do at this point is cross are fingers and hope we get lucky but history has shown we'll draft the worst possible option or panic and reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott7975 View Post
    2 bad off seasons in your opinion. Hiring the wrong coach does not make a bad GM. There were not many candidates in the pool and reguardless of what you think about Chan, he came with as good a resume as any of the people that said they would come here. You point to Frazier earlier... his resume was an interim HC job and an 0-3 record with the team going 3-13 as a coordinator. The following year he went 3-13 again. Yet after Nix had built the team for 3 years we suddenly have alot more candidates interested in the job. Thats proof right there that he was a good GM. Poor QB play doesnt mean squat on a GMs shoulders. He had a plan to build a team and get a QB when he felt the team was ready for a rookie to have the best chance of success. He has said that all along. This was a full blown rebuild.... those are the records you see with a full blown rebuild.
    Nix felt Fitz was a franchise QB. This organization has been starved for an above average qb for so long. Going into year 4 of Nix's "rebuild' without ever drafting a QB is a huge fail.
    Originally Posted by HiddenInLight
    Then what would we do about our lack of CBs LTs WRs and LBs with no 1sts for the next 4 years and no seconds for the next 3? This team would be SO much worse off if we made that deal. Washington will not make the playoffs in the next 5 years. You can sig that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jm2009 View Post
    Nix felt Fitz was a franchise QB. This organization has been starved for an above average qb for so long. Going into year 4 of Nix's "rebuild' without ever drafting a QB is a huge fail.
    If he thought that, he wouldnt have given him one of the lowest QB contracts in the league. You have to pay your starting QB starting salary and thats all he did. QBs arent going to sit there and start while making less money then the 2nd and 3rd string QB. He started off at a hot 5-2 beating the Pats/Philly ( who at the time was the "dream team" and experts predicted superbowl run/Raiders who were also hot at the time/ blew out KC who came off a playoff season IIRC. Also at the time Fitz was also ranked in the top 5 and we had an offense that was barely rivaled by the number 1 offense in the Pats. Many on this board said he should have gotten a new contract at the time. Its not some blind thing. At the time there were zero haters on the board for those 7 weeks. Most of them were talking about eating crow. To be all upity now saying you knew all along is silly. (not you specifically, in general) If Fitz would have ended the season as he started then Nix would have been called a genious for signing him when they did because Fitz would have gotten a lot more in the off season. There were also escape clauses put in for every season. You dont put escape clauses in a QB that you know is franchise.

    There is nothing wrong paying your below average QB to below average money, especially when he was looking hot. You are right though, not drafting anyone other then Levi Brown was a fail and a big one. That still doesnt make him a bad GM. Every GM makes mistakes. If the QBs he liked fell to him in he right round he would have drafted one. The team had so many holes and they felt Fitz could do a decent job until the right time they felt to draft one. Its not so bad a strategy. The only reason to ***** about it is he missed on Kaep and Wilson. So he missed on 2 QBs in 3 years time. Not so big of a deal. That means he didnt reach and waste draft picks on a bunch of other QBs like gabbert, tebow, locker etc. If he were to take any one of those QBs we would still be sitting in another 3 years of mediocrity while passing on even more possible greats. Anytime you draft a QB, you have to give him a chance to succeed. Thats atleast 2 years to give them a chance. Not every QB will come out like Luck and Wilson. Kaep still rode the bench for a year and a half and still makes some bonehead mistakes. Some Qbs take time to develop and look bad but will eventually be very good. That especially happens when you got a bad team. People want to blame the defense on Fitz. Well Luck threw 2 more INTs then Fitz last year... so our defense would have still been bad. So say we got Luck (which we had no chance at but example)... does he look as good as he did on the Colts? No, people would be riding his *** too. Our Defense would have still been ****, not because of talent but because of coaching. We would have won maybe 2 more games putting us 8-8 and mediocre.... and we would still have Chan Gailey here.
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