I can very much understand this anger and frustration.
But some QBs are going to need a year or two on the bench. That's just the way it is, some guys aren't ready, and many would benefit from that year. Unless you are absolutely 100% sure that whatever QB you pick will be ready - and I don't know how anyone can ever be sure - then you have three choices in case he's not ready.
The first choice is keeping Ryan Fitzpatrick and letting him start. I'm sorry, this is what I would have a hard time stomaching. Or starting someone even worse, ala Tarvaris or some such.
Except for that, you need to grab an FA. IMHO, Alex Smith gives you a legitimate chance to win, short and long-term. The problem is he'll never be elite, but he is probably the 10th or 12th best QB in the league - this is my opinion, obviously, not some fact I've brought down from the mountain - and could win a Super Bowl if surrounded by a good team. Disagree? Don't want Smith or think he's too expensive? IMHO, the only alternative left is a Band-Aid, which would allow us to at least put a watchable product on the field for a couple of years or so while the kid develops. I believe that Mike Vick would fill that void.
Do I want Vick? No, I want Alex Smith and a draft QB in the first round or two. But is Vick the next best option? IMHO, yeah, probably.
And I get upset about this stuff, too, and probably come off rude sometimes. I apologize.
Last edited by Thurman#1; 02-06-2013 at 03:41 AM.
We have earned our thin skin when it comes to Bills QB's.
While Fitz would be my last pick, I just don't see any improvement w/ either Vick or Smith comming in.
IMO Matt Moore did more with a bad Dolphins team than Alex Smith did to win games for the 9rs.
That would be my only FA choice at this point.
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IMO Smith is going to flop bigtime when he leaves SF. He reminds me of Trent. Lets remember concussions are serious and they say once a QB starts getting them they will come more frequent. A few hits and the old Smith will return. Id rather be stuck with a cheaper Vick for two seasons then get stuck with a Smith in a bigger contract for at least 3 + seasons. Smith is not a QB that can be a leader or a guy that can get a win on his own but Vick can do this and has many times. Get Vick and still draft a QB @8.
I personally feel either qb would bring some hope for next season, both qbs could be flops, or both could be studs, you really never know for sure, i like to go with proven, mike vick has been good before, smith was average. for the bills to make playoffs, we need more than average. we need someone to make plays for us. Vick even though he hasnt shown it of late, has the potential to do this, he would be our best shot at catching lighting in a pan and making the playoffs next season.
Now if he came here and was placed in a similar system - ie run first, toned back passing game - then he might be a short term option while a rookie QB is groomed, but he's not a long term fix.
I guess Vick is the same thing, but to an extent if he's well protected he can lead a more expansive and explosive offense (eg like the seasons that earned him his big deal) than Smith could ever do, but it's still a short term fix.
Simply not true. Average QBs just do NOT put together seasons like this: a QB rating of 104.1, a completion percentage of 70.2%, a YPA of 8.0 and 13 TDs and 5 INTs, including a 2.3 INT percentage. They just don't. If they do, they're no longer average, they have vastly improved.
Yeah, he wasn't good before Harbaugh was hired, but it's now pretty obvious that that is because he wasn't used well. Also might not have helped that they changed offensive systems every single year of his career until the start of this year.
And Kaepernick ISN'T an unproven rookie. He'd already proven himself to be **** good. Sure the defense helped Alex Smith, just as they did Kaepernick, but the facts are that Smith also helped the defense, by playing extremely efficiently, and rarely turning the ball over, and by scoring an above average amount of points.
I'm not arguing that Smith is better than Kaepernick. He doesn't seem to be. But Kaepernick right now is probably top seven or eight in the league. While Smith is still around top ten or twelve.
As for the offense opening up, if they did it was mostly because of Kaep's running.
Smith week one: 211
nine: 72 (in three drives before being injured) ... and a total of 13 TDs
week nine: 117 (in seven drives after Smith's injury)
sixteen: 276 ... and a total of 10 TDs
Where's the big opening up? The thing that Kaepernick has done a ton better than Alex Smith, really, is to run. 208 YPG passing (over 8.3 games for Smith) isn't all that much less than 224 YPG passing (over 7.7 games for Kaepernick).
That offense wasn't limited just for Smith's skill set. Or why did they run pretty much the same one with Kaepernick? That's Harbaugh's offense, he's a pretty conservative guy. There's nothing wrong with a conservative offense, especially when you can do so and still score more than average and turn the ball over much less than average ... and there's no saying Smith couldn't get better at a more aggressive game. He's been improving by leaps and bounds the past two years, and might well continue to do so.
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Cordy Glenn - let him play left tackle people. Geesh!
My expectations for our new coach are simple.
1. Have the ability to locate decent stop gap players that are better players than the last ones who were on this roster for far too long.
2. Win as many games as you can, but when you lose ... get beat, don't follow in the steps of your predecessors who seemed to try and find new and inventive ways to lose winnable games.