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    Default Is Matt Barkley the next Andy Dalton?

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    Because if he is, I think it is worth it to take a chance on him at #8, as long as everything proves okay with his shoulder, and Smith is off the board.

    2nd round, I could see us going BPA at LB or WR

    3rd round, same deal as 2nd round

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    I don't know of any definite reason why he couldn't be as good as Andy Dalton.

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    Nassib reminds me a lot of Dalton as well. One quirk with Nassib, I find it strange that any route from 5-15 yards, he looks like he has a cannon of an arm, and then on deep balls, he's constantly under-throwing his wr's. weird..

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    Won't happen at #8, your best hope is 2nd round OR trade down.

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    I told my friends this yesterday... If we pass on a QB and the available QBS go else where and become Dalton, keeper nick, or Wilson types, nix and Whaley need to be fired immediately. With that said I don't know if we can risk not taking one at 8. You'll never get a QB unless we draft one. I think we gotta take a chance

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    Andy Dalton is a below average NFL QB with hardly any upside.

    However, I think the comparison is valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SLAMMER View Post
    Won't happen at #8, your best hope is 2nd round OR trade down.

    Thank God we've got someone on here with exact knowledge of the future. It "won't happen at #8." Wow!

    Yet another person on here mistaking his opinion for a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrober38 View Post
    Andy Dalton is a below average NFL QB with hardly any upside.

    However, I think the comparison is valid.

    15th in completion percentage
    20th in YPA
    15th in QB Rating
    One fourth-quarter comeback and three game-winning drives this year (according to Pro Football Reference)

    In your second year, those are anything but below average. Above average, actually. And as for having no upside, it doesn't make sense. He made a major step up this year, and is still very early in his career.

    His YPA went up from 6.6 to 6.9
    His QB Rating went up from 80.4 to 87.4
    His completion percentage went up from 58.1 to 62.3
    He increased by nearly half his TDs per attempt
    His INT percentage got worse, but it went from (2.5) very good to (3.0) slightly below average. This will be a problem if the trend continues, but his good record of avoiding INTs in his first year gives hope that this might be an aberration.

    I'm not sure Barkley and Dalton are a good comparison. But if they are, we should grab Barkley. Dalton shows every sign of being a fine young QB who's still improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurman#1 View Post
    15th in completion percentage
    20th in YPA
    15th in QB Rating
    One fourth-quarter comeback and three game-winning drives this year (according to Pro Football Reference)

    In your second year, those are anything but below average. Above average, actually. And as for having no upside, it doesn't make sense. He made a major step up this year, and is still very early in his career.

    His YPA went up from 6.6 to 6.9
    His QB Rating went up from 80.4 to 87.4
    His completion percentage went up from 58.1 to 62.3
    He increased by nearly half his TDs per attempt
    His INT percentage got worse, but it went from (2.5) very good to (3.0) slightly below average. This will be a problem if the trend continues, but his good record of avoiding INTs in his first year gives hope that this might be an aberration.

    I'm not sure Barkley and Dalton are a good comparison. But if they are, we should grab Barkley. Dalton shows every sign of being a fine young QB who's still improving.
    Here's one only Peyton manning and Dan Marino have thrown more TD passes in their first 2 seasons than Andy dalton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by billsfanottawa View Post
    Nassib reminds me a lot of Dalton as well. One quirk with Nassib, I find it strange that any route from 5-15 yards, he looks like he has a cannon of an arm, and then on deep balls, he's constantly under-throwing his wr's. weird..
    Not to mention he throws one of the worst deep balls I have ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurman#1 View Post
    15th in completion percentage
    20th in YPA
    15th in QB Rating
    One fourth-quarter comeback and three game-winning drives this year (according to Pro Football Reference)

    In your second year, those are anything but below average. Above average, actually. And as for having no upside, it doesn't make sense. He made a major step up this year, and is still very early in his career.

    His YPA went up from 6.6 to 6.9
    His QB Rating went up from 80.4 to 87.4
    His completion percentage went up from 58.1 to 62.3
    He increased by nearly half his TDs per attempt
    His INT percentage got worse, but it went from (2.5) very good to (3.0) slightly below average. This will be a problem if the trend continues, but his good record of avoiding INTs in his first year gives hope that this might be an aberration.

    I'm not sure Barkley and Dalton are a good comparison. But if they are, we should grab Barkley. Dalton shows every sign of being a fine young QB who's still improving.
    How can you post that he is 15th, 20th and 15th in three stats, then say its above average? Out of 32 starting QBs, that is almost exactly average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrober38 View Post
    Andy Dalton is a below average NFL QB with hardly any upside.

    However, I think the comparison is valid.
    Your football knowledge is terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockydm92 View Post
    Here's one only Peyton manning and Dan Marino have thrown more TD passes in their first 2 seasons than Andy dalton...
    Yeah and here is another, the Bengals have been terrible for a long time but now the last two year they went to the play offs. In a division with the steelers and ravens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigity2 View Post
    Because if he is, I think it is worth it to take a chance on him at #8, as long as everything proves okay with his shoulder, and Smith is off the board.

    2nd round, I could see us going BPA at LB or WR

    3rd round, same deal as 2nd round

    I've talked to a couple bengal fans who want that guy gone already especially after his lackluster performances in the playoffs past two years.


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    No, Andy Dalton is better.
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    Matt Barkley is the next Sanchez ... ..remember Aaron Corp had BARKLEY beat out before he was injured ...we have Corp .....

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